<![CDATA[Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect]]>

Dear Community,

So I have a native Isadora plugin that implement’s the awesome, open-source v002 Rutt-Etra plugin by Vade; it works on both Mac and Windows. I want to get this into your hands, but first I am asking you all to make a small financial commitment.

Bill Etra passed away last year. But Vade sends all donations he receives via the v002 Rutt Etra web page to Jim’s partner Roz. She lives on fixed income and has no surviving family to help her, so every donation made via Vade's page makes a big difference in someone’s life. (You can read more about Bill & Roz at Vade's page: http://v002.info/plugins/v002-rutt-etra/)

TroikaTronix is already going to make a generous donation. But I would like to see the community do a bit more. So, by upvoting this post, you are indicating your commitment to donate at least 10 $/€/£ to Roz via Vade’s webpage. When the upvote count gets to 25, I’ll release the plugin for all Isadora users to have, and put the source code online. We’ll send a reminder to all who upvoted once that happens.

I hope that you find this little challenge worthwhile, and will see fit to donate to someone who could really use the help.

Best Wishes,
Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/topic/3291/isadora-native-v002-rutt-etra-effectRSS for NodeFri, 13 Mar 2026 01:29:06 GMTFri, 26 May 2017 04:43:29 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 18 May 2020 07:45:17 GMT]]>@mark thankyou so much for this.. i was beating my head against the wall too and tried everything.. but yes this is a great solution.. i found some blurs that work great! especially a GLSL one that has tons of paramaters and isnt slowing me down noticably.. i really appreciate all that you do. 

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41083https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41083Mon, 18 May 2020 07:45:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Sun, 17 May 2020 21:19:30 GMT]]>@demetri79

Please verify that you've seen my solution and that it works for you when you get a chance.

Best Wishes,
Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41079https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41079Sun, 17 May 2020 21:19:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Sun, 17 May 2020 07:04:11 GMT]]>@demetri79 said:

its not working for me at all and wondering if that is a bug or what is going on. this is the most important effect i use for every project i do and really need this working.

Well, after pulling my hair out for six hours comparing the original code from Vade and the current code of the native Rutt Etra, trying a bunch of stuff to get it to behave the same as the QC plugn, it turned out to be something stupidly simple. I put the soution in a separate post so that other users will hopefully see it.

Best Wishes,
Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41071https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41071Sun, 17 May 2020 07:04:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Sat, 16 May 2020 13:10:36 GMT]]>@demetri79 said:

Does the normal smooth reshape the spikes from z extrude for you like the v2 did? its not working for me at all and wondering if that is a bug or what is going on. this is the most important effect i use for every project i do and really need this working. 

OK. I can't help myself. I'm looking into it.

Best Wishes, Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41065https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41065Sat, 16 May 2020 13:10:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Sat, 16 May 2020 11:37:18 GMT]]>@demetri79 said:

Does the normal smooth reshape the spikes from z extrude for you like the v2 did? its not working for me at all and wondering if that is a bug or what is going on. this is the most important effect i use for every project i do and really need this working.

As far as I know, the native plugin never supported this feature -- only the Quartz composer versions did what you are asking. I just went and checked the v2 version of the Isadora native Rutt Etra plugin. The normal smoothng has no effect, just as it is in the v3 plugin.

So, I'm really sorry, but let me repeat what I said above: it's not my code and I don't know how to fix it. Vade graciously offered to let make a native plugin using his source code with the agreement we'd seek donations for the late Bill Etra's partner who is on fixed income. (TroikaTronix made a generous donation of its own at the start.)

I'll try to write Vade to see if he's willing to help, but I can't make any promises. I am simply using the code he gave me, and in that code, this feature is not implemented. It he's not willing to offer his time then I'm afraid there is nothing I can really do except to have you use the Quartz Composer plugin, which I guess supports this feature.

Best Wishes,
Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41060https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41060Sat, 16 May 2020 11:37:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Fri, 15 May 2020 19:08:13 GMT]]>@mark 

Does the normal smooth reshape the spikes from z extrude for you like the v2 did? its not working for me at all and wondering if that is a bug or what is going on. this is the most important effect i use for every project i do and really need this working. It drastically (and beautifully) reshapes the sharp points that extrude from the z dimension.. so that you can have a more bubbly look rather than spiky look.  I tried every permutation of changing all the other parameters on or off and then adjusted the normal smooth and got no visual results at all?  that parameter just doesn't work on my end:(

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41049https://community.troikatronix.com/post/41049Fri, 15 May 2020 19:08:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Fri, 15 May 2020 19:04:58 GMT]]>@mark yes the Vertex smoothing is the parameter from the old version I am referencing.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40861https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40861Fri, 15 May 2020 19:04:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 04 May 2020 11:14:38 GMT]]>@demetri79 said:

its missing the smooth paramater like the old version had

Well, unfortunately, I did not write this code, Vade did. He was kind enough to let us port it if we asked for a donation to Bill Etra's partner, since Bill had passed away and she was on fixed income. Bottom line: I'm not sure how to change this plugin to give you what you want.

But exactly what parameter are you talking about? Here's a side-by-side of the old QC plugin and Isadora's version

Isadora has 'antialiasing' which is the same as 'Element Antialiasing'. Isadora has 'normal smooth' which is enabled if 'calc normals' is on; this is the same as 'Vertex Smoothing' in the QC plugin. So when it comes to things that are missing, as far as I know, we're not missing anything.

Maybe you can help me by being more specific?

Best Wishes,
Mark

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40825https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40825Mon, 04 May 2020 11:14:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 04 May 2020 04:40:34 GMT]]>RE- RUTT for isador 3.. its missing the smooth paramater like the old version had.. which was essential to me.. it smooths off the sharp edges of the z extrude.. is it possible to put that back in.. or maybe add another actor after the output if not?

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40824https://community.troikatronix.com/post/40824Mon, 04 May 2020 04:40:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:43:03 GMT]]>@wolandYay!  I miss it.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36481https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36481Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:43:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:34:20 GMT]]>@eight

Coming soon!

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36448https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36448Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:34:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:02:33 GMT]]>@mark I understand the 3 requires 64 bit architecture, while the plugin linked above in this thread is 32 bit. I have downloaded the source code for the plugin from github, in order to try to compile its 64 bit version, but the repo is missing some dependencies, like IsadoraLib.a.

Is there any info on this plugin vis-a-vis Isadora 3? 

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36442https://community.troikatronix.com/post/36442Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:02:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:10:33 GMT]]>@gogoj

Did you only put the Macintosh file into place or the "v002 Rutt Etra for Isadora v1.0" folder? It has to be only the plugin itself.

Best Michel

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24685https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24685Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:10:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:31:12 GMT]]>Hello, I had download v002 Rutt-Etra plugins and drop it in to /Library/Application Support/TroikaTronix/Isadora Plugins/, but i can't find it out in isadora 2.5.2. can you tell me how to use it ? thanks a lot !

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24676https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24676Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:31:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:14:02 GMT]]>Thought I had signed up when mark first posted this. no matter just donated $15 and ready to play!!!!!

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24526https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24526Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:14:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:02:43 GMT]]>@mark just donated. really lovely to read about his work.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24383https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24383Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:02:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:13:41 GMT]]>@DusXYes, I did.  Just checked again and it is there.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24364https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24364Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:13:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Fri, 30 Jun 2017 02:00:30 GMT]]>@vjw
Did you download the plugin from the link listed by Mark above, and install it to 

  • C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\TroikaTronix\Isadora Plugins\
]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24354https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24354Fri, 30 Jun 2017 02:00:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:12:09 GMT]]>@Skulpture Version 1 of the Rutt-Etra?  Yes; I've not seen another version for Windows.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24353https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24353Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:12:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:03:29 GMT]]>@Skulpture

Am running Izz version 2.5.2 on a Win8 computer, but haven't bought the upgrade.  The test file doesn't run the plugin, nor allow me to replace the actors that the message says won't work and need to replace.  Attaching a screenshot, but it doesn't show the red won't work symbol.

Thanks

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24352https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24352Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:03:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:46:06 GMT]]>@neoesum click on the little arrow up on the first post of this thread 

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24320https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24320Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:46:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 26 Jun 2017 19:41:15 GMT]]>Should work on both as far as I am aware. Are you ruining version 1?

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24291https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24291Mon, 26 Jun 2017 19:41:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:50:15 GMT]]>Does this plugin only work with the updated version 2 ?

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24290https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24290Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:50:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Isadora Native v002 Rutt-Etra Effect on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:11:30 GMT]]>Did it!  Thanks for the opportunity.

]]>https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24254https://community.troikatronix.com/post/24254Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:11:30 GMT