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Izzy controlled zoom cameras


  • Beta Gold

    THanks to everyone for the answers

    in fact they all are interesting and have some difficulties. First I'll try to be clear on my needs. For the moments I don't have the need of importing images into izzy. They go straight to the big lcd screens.
    So, just pan/tilt zoom and ideally iris control. But I forgot to tell that I need full HD
    Lanc seems a pretty expensive because it seems to be 
    Canon vb-h41 is and seems to support lots of protocols.... but no futher specifications how they are implemented.
    IPv4 : TCP/IP, UDP, HTTP, FTP, SNMP (MIB2), SMTP (Client), DHCP (Client), DNS (Client), ARP, ICMP, POP3, NTP, authentification SMTP, RTSP, WV-HTTP (Canon), ONVIF IPv6 : TCP/IP, UDP, HTTP, FTP, SMTP (Client), DNS (Client), ICMPv6, POP3, NTP, authentification SMTP, RTSP, WV-HTTP (Canon), ONVIF
    In the end all I just want is to control come full hd webcams zoom tilt pan.... Still searching....


  • Hi Armando, there are some cheap cameras that can be controlled with Lanc ( for zoom & focus ). Nearly all Sony cameras in fact. And most of them output hdmi.

    Then you need a pan tilt solution.
    I personnaly prefer ( and use ) this solution because for equal prices I get better cameras than the security pan/tilt models.
    Best
    Mehdi

  • Beta Gold

    Hello again,

    Thanks again guys to all of you. So, I'm keeping you posted for information.
    The final solution we found is Michael one . I'll explain why [Canon VC-C50i](http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/security_video_solutions/analog_pan_tilt_zoom_video_cameras/vc_c50i_vc_c50ir) is controllable via RS232 although we haven't tested it.
    What I want is ton control PTZ of 9 cameras and project into 9 screens in 3 rows of 3.
    4:3 proportion is fine for the project, but how to digitize 9 cameras? even though sd res. I'll need at least 3 computers with 3 Blackmagic quad then I need the 9 screens.
    I decided to use a good full hd projector. So i connect the 9 cameras to a good videosveilance hard disk recorder and multiplexer. Then I digitize this as one camera, then I split it into 9 parts I project so I can acquire, process and project any image from any source to any screen with 1 computer and one hd multiplexer.
    What is the cheapest solution to d digitize 1 HD image (hdmi) And is there a solution to digitize 2 full hd images?
    All the best. And thanks again for all the answers. All were great! 


  • Hi Armando, what's the computer, is latency a big issue ( I mean is it important to go down to ~4 frames instead of ~8 ).

    Best
    Mehdi

  • Tech Staff

    @Armando
    Just in case you need it, back in 2007 I made an Isadroa patch to controll the Canon vc-c4 and vc-c50i. HERE is the link to the old forum where you can download it.

    Best,
    Michel


  • Beta Gold

    Thanks Michael.

    You are always as generous as competent as always.
    I did download it. I hope I can adapt it for 9 cameras (the canon have in an out rs232). Crossing fingers because I'm buying 9!!!!!! 

  • Tech Staff

    The patch is made for 9 cameras already, you can easily select them or control all at the same time. And as I said, daisy chaining the cameras would be very easy. The first camera in the row would be number 1 the second one number 2 and so on. You don't have to adress them if you daisy chain them.

    Best
    Michel


  • Beta Gold

    Wow, thanks.

    I want to do a camera choreography. Your patch seems perfect. I'll send you if I make any changes. Thanks Michael. Just perfect as always.
    Apparently handshaking are changet in 1.3 I hope I can understand that. Never did serial....

  • Beta Gold

    @ Michael,

    I'm finally going for you your solution. Canon VC50i. But I've seen that the serial cable is not like the one I know. The camera is shipped with an adaptor "Canon VC-EX3 Surveillance Video Camera Interface S-Video & RS-232 Serial Adapter"

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/383568-REG/Canon_0611B001_VC_EX3_Surveillance_Camera_Interface.html

    and the serial plug is round so I need a serial cable that goes from keyspan to this thing plus chain to the other 8 cameras and I found it on the canon website under cables. But what I didn't find is the cable that goes from a camera to the next. It is not listed in the canon website at least in the cable section! Any idea about the name or where to find it?

    Thanks


  • Tech Staff

    It looks like a PS2 cable? Not sure....

    [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PS+2+cable&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7CERUYOaH4Wq0QW8zYHABQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1543&bih=1102](https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PS+2+cable&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7CERUYOaH4Wq0QW8zYHABQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1543&bih=1102)

  • Beta Gold

    thanks. Who knows. It is a 8 pin mini din cable but is it crossed?

    this is an explaining pdf 8 pin to RS 232...
    After lots of research I found this RS232 to 8 pin mini din cable for vc cameras.
    http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RS%2D232C&eq=&Tp=
    But the camera output of rs 232 is 8 pin too. SO I probably need just 8 pin to 8 pin cables.... and there are different configurations of the pins....
    The good one is this
    http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=PA%2DV16&eq=&Tp=
    SO I probably need a 8 pin to 8 pin cable similar to this plug 
    I cross fingers...