Best regards, Jean-François

Hi folks, @dbini -- thank you both for your suggestions. The titles are working great now...but I wonder if you can lend another hand. I don't think I understand the logic of the selector, to be honest, and I have a little issue where my actor is jumping lines and I can't figure out a way for the operator to select a specific line. Adding a trigger value button going to the selector doesn't work. Is there an easy solution to this? Thanks so much. 

your counter is still outputting 5 from last time round, and the selector needs an active trigger to change it.

you could either initialise the current value to zero, and enter scene trigger the add to send 1 to your selector, or give your selector 6 inputs and leave the first 1 blank, enter scene trigger to value 1, with a tiny trigger delay to trigger a value of 2 to the selector. or trigger it back to zero at the end of the scene, so that when you enter again it is ready to go.

I'm experiencing a weird (to me) thing that's probably obvious to other people, but I was putting in my surtitles and I was planning on using multiple scenes so it isn't so messy.

But nothing I do get's the scenes back to cur value 1 the first time I reenter the scene. I tried enter scene value of 1 connected to cur value as well as trigger value of 1 (w/ enter scene trigger) connected to the selector number. Both of those value are set to Initialize at 1, but never do. 

In this screenshot you can see that the cur value and selector both say 1, but it's showing the 5th title (the last one I played before leaving the scene and coming back). 

Do you see what I'm missing?

I use Bounds width and height and vertical align bottom or center. In this example I use bottom 

it is what you ask for?

Best regards, 

Jean-François 

thanks for the alternative tip. I have only one question Jean-François. In this case how do you deal with subtitles that are one line and then the next is 3 lines ? Since titles appear at the same hight in the projector if the title 1 (say) is just one word and the next one is on three lines How do you change the values of position and bounds in the text draw? Because hight is supposed to change, no ? Otherwise, on the one that is in just one line might be too high and the one in three lines risks being too low and then being cut.

or others solutions

Best regards, 

Jean-François

SRT Subtitle Player

 Hi @Woland ... I'm back trying to do something interesting with surtitles again (having gained basically no skills from the last time) and I'd like to use your actor or something other than two systems. Is your actor primarily designed to project an srt file for an existing movie? Is there a way to use it for cuing particular surtitles, because this is for live performance and so will probably need to be cued on the line. But, more to the point, I can't actually get it to output anything, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Does ok in the error box mean that it's actually "ok"? Write now what it's outputting is the default * from the Text Draw actor. I'd love to know what I'm doing wrong, but also what anybody recommends as the best solution for cueing surtitles in Izzie...would you say the ReadTextFromFile? 

The address is meant for the OSC path, which you now have put to the value. The /goNext command doesn't need any extra value. But to send something, Isadoras OSC transmit actor need to register a change at the value input. It doesn't matter in this case, what the value is. It could even be a trigger.

The OSC Multi Transmit does have a 'transmit trigger'. Which makes it a bit more logical.
If you would like to jump to a specific line, you would enter /goTo for the address and the Number of the line into 'value'. (see # 7 for Value 1 in pic)

What I have right now is:

localhost = udp address

9009 = port

??? = address [as I understand it, this should begin with / and should be supplied by glypheo...but I can find nothing in their very limited documentation]

Am I being dense?

Thanks so much for your help.

Additionally, the Read Text From File downloadable plugin we have recently released on the TroikaTronix Add-Ons Page might also be useful for the purposes of reading surtitles/subitles/supertitles from a file and feeding that text into a Text Draw actor, then out through a Projector actor.

Have you tried this? If Glypheo is running on the same machine as isadora does, put the IP in the OSC actor to 127.0.0.1 and the port to 9009

You can also control Glypheo via OSC, for example with TouchOSC on your mobile phone.

Be sure to setup your OSC port to 9009, and use the following messages :

• /goPrevious
• /goNext
• /goTo index where index is the OSC argument for example /goTo  1   or   /goTo  2.3
• /goBlackAndNext

Best

Dill

@jarporte said:To the best of my memory neither the Royal Opera House or the English National Opera have fades between titles. And if those guys don't know how to do it properly, then who does?!

 

 While I may agree with you.  Neither of those companies pay my salary ;).

So if it is possible I do what the boss wishes.

 The next thing I know the boss will throw at me is "Can the text fade in and out, like power point?"  

Resist this!! Persuade the boss it's not a good idea! As an opera goer I notice that what pulls my eye from stage to surtitle is the sudden change of text, sensed in my peripheral vision. If the titles fade in and out one might not see this.

To the best of my memory neither the Royal Opera House or the English National Opera have fades between titles. And if those guys don't know how to do it properly, then who does?!

I have made the "readtextfromfile" work and for a NOOB I was pretty excited to make that all happen.  The next thing I know the boss will throw at me is "Can the text fade in and out, like power point?"  

So is that possible?  ok I know it more than likely is.  Which actor do I use.  I have tried a few but they don't seem to do the trick.

Thanks

The Isadora file is pretty simple to use I think.. the attached demo file and sample srt file should get you started.
SRT demo.zip

I would go for an external application to manage surtitles called Glypheo. It's a free application (mac only) made by the guys from Millumin.

It has native syphon output, can be controlled via OSC/MIDI, and can import word files (with proper encoding).

You can run it in background (with no surface output, just syphon), trigger surtitles via OSC/midi from Isadora or via midi from a controller, use syphon stream into Isadora and map surtitles everywhere you want : http://glypheo.com

Best

Philippe

The data array into a text draw actor does just fine for me, reading line-by-line from a text file.  I'm building a show with titles integrated into the design right now, so it gets more complicated playing through scenes, especially as I adapt fonts and text positioning to each character and scene.  But the basic operation is simple. I'll attach a screenshot.

In practice I convert the script to a text file, and read it line by line.  I keep it open when running the show in a coding editor that reads text files, so I can see line numbers.  Best to use a copy of the main file in performance, so you're not reading the same file that isadora is reading, and accidentally alter it. Here I'm using BBEDIT: