[ANSWERED] Sound control and fades with scene changes

Kolmon3853

Hi.

I'm trying to figure out how to integrate my soundtrack(s) across scenes running multiple movie players, and I'm having difficulty getting this to work the way I need it to work.

When the sound is in the movie player it is affected by the scene fade-in/out. I need the fades for the video, but I do not want the fade in the sound. I want the sound to just play the track as is upon entering the scene. I incorporated the Sound Actor using the Enter Scene Trigger to see if that works, but it seems that the Sound Actor is also impacted by the scene fade-in/out settings.

Is there a way to set this up so that the video is controlled by the fades, but so the sound bypasses the fade-in/out settings?

I also have been looking to see if there is a way to play a long sound track and just have it running while the scenes play out. I do want to know how to do this, and could maybe use this now, though it isn't the ideal solution. I saw some reference to something like this in one of the forum discussions, but I don't see any information about how to set that up so I can trigger a sound that plays independent of the scene changes.

Does anybody have any suggestions or guidance in how to proceed? I suppose I could trigger an external sound device, and probably will want to do that as part of an installation related to this project. For now though I'm trying to find a way to do this from within Isadora.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I'm using Isadora 3.1.1 on a Macbook Pro running MacOS Big Sur 11.5.2.

Thanks!

Craig@InterferenceArts.com

DusX

@kolmon3853

There are two primary ways to Play sound through a series of videos.

Use multiple scenes + a background scene
pros: easily span numerous scenes and use built in cross fades
cons: needs to manage a background scene (activate, deactivate)
Play multiple videos in one scene along side your Sound playback
pros: 1 scene (sometimes this matters)
cons: harder cross-fade programming

I recommend you look at adding a scene near the beginning, which contains an enterscene and your sound player, which you activate when you enter the first video scene.
So an example of the scenes: [1 'start scene which jumps to Video 1'] [2 'Sound BG scene'] [3 'Video 1'] [4 'Video 2'] etc.... (somewhere you may need to deactivate the sound, unless it comes to a natural end)

You will need to look at 'Activate Scene' and/or 'Activate Scene Amount' to manage the Background Audio Scene.

Woland

@kolmon3853 Here's an example file for this method: Example File

@dusx said:

Use multiple scenes + a background scene
pros: easily span numerous scenes and use built in cross fades
cons: needs to manage a background scene (activate, deactivate)

Kolmon3853

@dusx

thank you very much for your quick feedback.

I will definitely look at this.

Kolmon3853

@woland

and thank you for the examples. That will definitely help!

CitizenJoe

This Guru session with Mark also has great info about using scenes:
Isadora Guru Session #15: Beyond Cueing: Using Scenes in Isadora - YouTube

Cheers,

Hugh

Kolmon3853

@citizenjoe said:

This Guru session with Mark also has great info about using scenes:Isadora Guru Session #15: Beyond Cueing: Using Scenes in Isadora - YouTubeCheers,Hugh

Thank you, Hugh!

Bennnid

@kolmon3853, Hi,

here's a patch where you can set for "scene 1" > 3 different Audio track, vol, pan at the same time

a scN 2 > change the vol pan, > that will be interpolate with matrix receive in a background scene,
> start again, stop continue or change track that will be transmitted with broadcaster/listener,

you just have to dupplicate scene to create more evolution

hope this will help,

best regards

sound-stuffs.izz

dbini

if you need to control things in the background scene that is playing the soundtrack, you can send data to that scene using Broadcaster/Listener actors.

DusX

another option would be to use my Advanced Envelope Scrubber. It's a bit of a different approach to using Background Scenes, where BG scenes are sued to sequence content over time, and the Primary scenes can be used to play Audio for the Sequence of BG scenes.

Kolmon3853

@bennnid

Thank you for this!

Kolmon3853

I want to thank everybody who responded to my query about this.

I have to say that this has helped me to make a huge step forward in this project, and also has significantly stepped up my understanding of how all of this works.

I really appreciate the support and advice!

Thank you thank you thank you!

Best,

Kolmon3853

Kolmon3853

@dbini

Yes! Thank you!

This helps a lot.