@jonathan

I can confirm the behaviour you are seeing. I am recording this as a bug, however, there is a simple work around.

Set the 'speed' input of your movie player to INIT = 0add an Enter Scene Value actor, and set it to 1, and connect it to the speed input.

This ensure playback doesn't start and that the movie is see as active (required for preload).

NOTE: preload is not generally recommended, it requires special care to use it effectively, and due to improved scene loading introduce in Isadora 3 isn't necessary except in extreme cases.

PLEASE read the following support article to better understand the preload actor. 

@jrhooker

Try putting another camera (any camera) up on the same pipe to see if it has a bouncy image as well.

What is upstairs from you? If it's something like heavy machinery or a dance studio, that could make your ceiling shake.

Another way is to use the monitor in control panel. Set the ID of the monitor (here 1) to the output of the NDI 5 Watcher. That's it. You can choose the size of the monitor in the control panel as you want. You don't need any extra stage for the preview.

Best regards

Jean-François 

OK, lesson learned - it was a corrupt file at 

/Users/theatre/Library/HTTPStorages/com.troikatronix.isadora

When IT uninstalled and reinstalled Izzy it works on 26.7.1. Live and learn. Thanks all! FAS

@bonemap said:

As a workaround, can I edit the Isadora preferences file manually while the Isadora application is closed?

 I don't know how to edit the preferences file since it's binary and not plain text, but one workaround is:

Use the steps in this article to install both the newer version of Isadora, and an older version of Isadora that doesn't have this problem.Delete your Isadora Preferences (use the steps under "macOS" and "Windows Option 2" from this article to delete all of them.)Open an older version of Isadora that doesn't have the issue.Change the OSC port in that versionClose the older version of IsadoraOpen the newer version of IsadoraIt will create a new preferences file by copying the older preferences file, in theory taking on the OSC port you set in the old one.

NOTE: If you want to change the port again, you need to perform steps 2-7 above again.

@citizenjoe

Thanks for this insight. The 2 license approach is where I am leaning. Having a year on a second license allows work to take place for a longer period, after which I could reevaluate whether I still need the additional license for another year. 

I'm glad to hear that it's worth it to do the upgrade. It sure seems like there are significant things that make it all more flexible, versatile and easier to do a lot of things... especially audio. I look forward to working with it.

I appreciate your feedback.

Best,

Craig

@bonemap 

Very cool!

@mr_j

I'm not seeing the exact same behavior as you, but something similar. I am able to close Isadora Settings, but I do see that on newer versions of macOS, this causes an eternal popup that can't be closed for me, so I'll log that.

Best wishes,

Woland

@mr_j

I still dearly want this as well. We have a plan for a new addressing system that would allow for an unlimited number of Control IDs (functioning more like OSC addresses), but we haven't been able to implement it yet.

Once Control IDs can be unique, it'll allow moving bits of Control Panels between patches and sharing User Actors with paired Control Panels without the possibility of causing a conflict, which I really look forward to.

One way you could store and recall more info at the moment would be leaning on the Data Array actor or using the method outlined in my previous post.

I solved it for now

@dusx

Yes, simply putting the file path and deactivating the "DX - PY - Browse for File", everything works fine :)
Thank you

DusX and Woland, thank you very much for your help and useful recommendations!

A special thanks to DusX for suggesting that we bundle parameters into JSON and for sharing the guide to JSON Bundler and JSON Parser. This really helped us understand how to reduce the number of inputs and outputs and simplify the connections in our project.

Woland, thank you for testing this in Isadora 3.2.6 and for suggesting the additional options using Broadcaster / Listener and Set / Get Global Values.

Regarding our statement about previous versions — we were mistaken. Thank you for checking and correcting us!

We really appreciate your responsiveness and the time you took to help. Your advice has genuinely helped us move forward!

@eva

You should be able to use the Syphon output from stage setup to allow OBS to grab the input. 
Using OBS is a good choice for big video like this, it allows completely separate cpu/gpu processes to deal with the video recording, which will ensure Isadora provides the best possible playback
Yes, set OBS to record at the speed you set the Isadora framerate at.
Since you are on Mac you could try Syphon recorder, it may be the easiest option. Syphon Recorder | Syphon

@bonemap

Hi Russell, I'm good, thanks. super busy with Oulu being European Capital of Culture this year, but surviving.
Thanks for loads of useful information. I've been using optical HDMI on the road for a few years and its great. More sturdy than I expected. The lighter weight seems to help to keep stress off the plugs.
I decided not to go for the 2012 MacPro - with that particular graphics card there's no hardware sync lock between the outputs, so no guarantee that all 4 quadrants would be running accurately. No budget for a M5 Max, so I've ordered a used M2 Mac Mini for the playback into the Saeda. Cable runs are short, so no worries there - all HDMI cables can be the same length.

The projectors arrived yesterday and, at first test, the image is super sharp. and they don't get hot. The only obvious design flaw is that the mounting points underneath look a bit flimsy, and are strangely distributed - I will probably build some mounting brackets out of ply and leave them bolted to the projectors.

So it looks like this is the first video installation project I've made in the last 18 years that doesn't use Isadora at all! 

@ray said:

but the decklink has the same numbers

 @CitizenJoe Have you experienced this? I don't have one of these cards to test, so I am not sure why the numbering might be this way.

@tomthebom said:

reexporting

 When video files are acting funny, this is the answer 99% of the time.

@dusx said:

You will need to open your preferences folder, and delete "com.troikatronix.isadora.vst3-plugins.json"

Just for folks who run across this post in the future, it's worth noting that you need to go to Mac HD/Users/[YOUR USERNAME]/Library/Preferences 

Apple, in their infinite wisdom, has both of the following and they're completely different:

✅Mac HD/Users/[YOUR USERNAME]/Library/Preferences 

❌Mac HD/Library/Preferences 

@theuhleese said:

there is no file called "com.troikatronix.isadora.vst3-plugins.json" in my Preferences folder (Macintosh HD / Library / Preferences)

You need to go to Mac HD/Users/[YOUR USERNAME]/Library/Preferences 

Apple, in their infinite wisdom, has both of the following and they're completely different:

✅Mac HD/Users/[YOUR USERNAME]/Library/Preferences 

❌Mac HD/Library/Preferences 

@mclefferson

We have Art Net support via the Art Net actors, but do not have sACN support at this time.
If sACN is an absolute requirement, it could be handled via Pythoner, but would take some custom coding.

As far as VLANs go, there isn't an Isadora-specific requirement to separate Art-Net and sACN, or to put all DMX-over-IP traffic on a single VLAN. They can coexist on the same lighting/show-control VLAN, and for a relatively small network that's probably the simplest setup.

@dbini Thanks! I'll give it a whirl