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    • camilozk
      camilozk last edited by

      ey ey!

      I am thinking on a way to "pause" the envelope generator. I was checking the different trigger modes but I havent found one that would do this job for me, or I havent yet understood how to do it.
      any idea?

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      • Michel
        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

        @camilozk

        Do you want it to stop at an action from your side or lets say for example always stop at 7, 15 and 20 seconds?

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        • camilozk
          camilozk last edited by

          I want to be able to freeze its behaviour when I order it to, and to resume its behaviour when I order it to.

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          • Michel
            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

            Well in this case the only possibility is to "pause the engine" CMD+SHIFT+P, but then it pauses everything also the movie that is playing.

            Best
            Michel

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              There is probably a work around; maybe a trigger value actor a the end or something?

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              • camilozk
                camilozk last edited by

                thanks guys

                pausing the engine is not an option.
                perhaps there is a work around but I thought that could be much simpler.
                I am going to do a Feature Request!
                :)

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                • vanakaru
                  vanakaru last edited by

                  If using Envelope is not absolutely necessary(simple one step rising counter) you can use Movie Player. Trigger speed 0/1 to start and resume and position output for value needed. You just have to make a movie(or mp3) as long you need.

                  For more complex envelopes you can trigger with external timeline like Duration, QLab and others over OSC.
                  I find Duration much easier to use than envelopes in Isadora.

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                    yep duration would be a good solution.

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                    • camilozk
                      camilozk last edited by

                      I still have to check out duration. saw the video yesterday and yes, it looks quite exciting.

                      Anyway, for certain purposes just a pause input in the envelope generator would do the job, while rising counters, movie players or even duration seem to be a lot of paraphernalia to simple pause the envelope.
                      I will try out duration today. thanks for discussing!!

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                      • Fred
                        Fred last edited by

                        You can just gate the output and keep the last value, put that as an input when you start it again right?

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                        • vanakaru
                          vanakaru last edited by

                          Fred, I had the same idea, but trying to build it got rather complicated. And when resuming the timing starts from the beginning. Like you run from 0-100 in 10sec, but resuming from 66-100 again 10sec instead of 3sec. So you need another counter/envelope to take care on that? While all you need is in Duration right there. 6511dc-stop-envelope.izz

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                          • cambrucedavis
                            cambrucedavis last edited by

                            Would not the relatively new Ease In-Out 2D Actor do the trick? It has the ability to Pause and Resume the action and can be done with a linear curve to match an envelope generator. Just set the curvature to 1.

                            Cheers,
                            Cam.

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                            • Michel
                              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                              @cambrucedavis

                              You are right, missed that one.

                              Best
                              Michel

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                              • camilozk
                                camilozk last edited by

                                @vanakaru

                                you patch works beautifully, and yes, it is very complicated. I will study it in order to understand it, but I am pretty sure it gets even more complicated as soon as I want to use an envelope with 2 or more segments.
                                [@cambrucedavis](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/cambrucedavis)
                                the pause input in Ease in-out 2D is exactly what I wish I have in envelope!! it is again not easy to work with this actor if have more than one segment.

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                                • primaldivine
                                  primaldivine last edited by

                                  @camilozk
                                  you can tether multiple Ease in-out 2D actors (using the 'complete' trigger to start the next one) as if each one were a segment.

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                                  • camilozk
                                    camilozk last edited by

                                    @primaldivine

                                    true. it is possible to draw a very complex envelope with multiple Ease in-out 2D actors, but then it gets again really complicated to pause the whole chain of Ease in-out 2D actors

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                                    • jhoepffner
                                      jhoepffner last edited by

                                      Hello,

                                      I just discover the post and I also search a way to have an envelope working like the command on a lightning desk:
                                      – possibility to start/pause resume
                                      – possibility to accelerate/decelerate/go backward
                                      Each time I give a class about Isadora, that is one of the first question when we make the first video player with automated fade, how to stop it? to go backward?
                                      I tried to do that with user actor using envelope, with duration, it can works, but not easy to use for begginers.
                                      It could be a great value to have that, easy to use in the tools, hello Mark and brave developers!
                                      jhoepffner

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                                      • m_theater
                                        m_theater last edited by

                                        @vanakaru

                                        this one will deal with the timing and resets itself after one pass

                                        57a896-stop-envelope-2.izz

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                                        • vanakaru
                                          vanakaru last edited by

                                          Pretty clever

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                                          • jhoepffner
                                            jhoepffner last edited by

                                            I make another proposition, with start/stop/resume/accel/decel/invert, it's a prototype, but show what I would find in a super envelope actor…

                                            It's necessary to use the movie included (100 second 1 pixel movie).

                                            61766c-superenvelope.zip

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