Hi Russell, I'm good, thanks. super busy with Oulu being European Capital of Culture this year, but surviving.
Thanks for loads of useful information. I've been using optical HDMI on the road for a few years and its great. More sturdy than I expected. The lighter weight seems to help to keep stress off the plugs.
I decided not to go for the 2012 MacPro - with that particular graphics card there's no hardware sync lock between the outputs, so no guarantee that all 4 quadrants would be running accurately. No budget for a M5 Max, so I've ordered a used M2 Mac Mini for the playback into the Saeda. Cable runs are short, so no worries there - all HDMI cables can be the same length.
The projectors arrived yesterday and, at first test, the image is super sharp. and they don't get hot. The only obvious design flaw is that the mounting points underneath look a bit flimsy, and are strangely distributed - I will probably build some mounting brackets out of ply and leave them bolted to the projectors.
So it looks like this is the first video installation project I've made in the last 18 years that doesn't use Isadora at all!
Hello how are you?
I am currently setting up for a 4 x projector show in a building site. 3 x projectors illuminate an hexagonal structure 1 x projector is stand alone. I will be blending the hexagonal with a Stage blend in Isadora with a second Stage for the single projector.
I also have a 2012 trashcan Mac Pro - but I will not be using it. Instead, I will use a MacBook Pro M5 Max which has the capacity for the 4 x video output leaving the built in screen for live control.
For my setup there is a fair amount of cable run and I spent some time figuring out what cabling to use that can deliver over long distances. Recently, in a theatre, we deployed Decimator branded video converters to send video from hdmi through SDI cable lengths to 3x Epson Pro laser projectors in the grid. This worked great with only minor issues with latency being uneven across the three sends. Well, the theatre owned the stash of Decimator devices and SDI cable runs, it worked because my Epson Pro projectors have SDI inputs reducing the need for the signal to be converted back to hdmi at the projector end.
This time I don’t have access to the Decimator/SDI solution. And costing it out for 4x Decimator devices and 4x long SDI cable runs went well above what I can spend currently. So I have invested in 4 x Active Optical hdmi cables and compatible thunderbolt/display port dongles. The cables are still expensive but have the converter electronics housed in the cable ends resulting in a solution that is considerable cheaper than converting to SDI. However, the cables are said to be more fragile and perhaps less robust ‘on the road’. This will be the first time using them. If anyone has experience using the AOC hdmi cables would be interested to hear.
The thing with the 2012 trashcan is compatible dongles (thunderbolt 2?) and the cable lengths required to distribute to your ST laser projectors.
Best wishes
Russell
bumping this thread with an update and a question.
So I ordered 4x Optoma Laser ST projectors (new ones aime at the golf sim market)
I have access to a Seada 4K pro video wall controller to split the image into 4. It doesn't handle edge blending, but has facility to overlap screens, so I will make a blended edge in my output video.
BUT. I just discovered an old MacPro 2012 for sale. running High Sierra. Specs say it can output 6 video streams. So I could potentially do all the mapping and edge blending in Isadora. Do you think it could handle splitting a 4K 30fps video into 4x HD?
@ray said:
but the decklink has the same numbers
@CitizenJoe Have you experienced this? I don't have one of these cards to test, so I am not sure why the numbering might be this way.
@woland Thanks, the reexporting with iMovie resolved the issue.
Thanks for your help. The problem I've run into is that the decklink outputs and the 4090 and 3070 are numbered the same. The 4090 and 3070 are numbers consecutively but the decklink has the same numbers. So if I assign display 2 to the decklink one of the other cards also has the same number. I just have display 1 thru 8 not 1 thru 16. I'm thinking about running two instances of Izzy one for the decklink and one for the nvidia cards. Btw the nvidia cards work very well with Izzy.
- JSON Bunder and JSON Parser actors can be used to reduce the number of inputs you need.
- Depending on how many instances of the User Actor you need, you could also use Broadcaster/Listener and/or Set/Get Global Values actors to get some of the information into your User Actors
@Cacoos wrote:
I did not encounter this limitation in the previous versions I used.
I just tried in Isadora 3.2.6 and saw that I can't add 256 inputs there either. What version are you referring to? (Just asking because if we can pinpoint the last version where it did work, we can see what changed about this in the next version.)
@cacoos said:
My project requires 253 signal inputs plus one reset input, for a total of 254 inputs in a single User Actor or Macro.
I would recommend bundling your similar parameters into JSON. I do this all the time for inputs/outputs. It can really make connecting things A LOT easier.
see: Using the JSON Parser and JSON Bundler Actors : TroikaTronix