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    • Fred
      Fred last edited by

      You can just gate the output and keep the last value, put that as an input when you start it again right?

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      • vanakaru
        vanakaru last edited by

        Fred, I had the same idea, but trying to build it got rather complicated. And when resuming the timing starts from the beginning. Like you run from 0-100 in 10sec, but resuming from 66-100 again 10sec instead of 3sec. So you need another counter/envelope to take care on that? While all you need is in Duration right there. 6511dc-stop-envelope.izz

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        • cambrucedavis
          cambrucedavis last edited by

          Would not the relatively new Ease In-Out 2D Actor do the trick? It has the ability to Pause and Resume the action and can be done with a linear curve to match an envelope generator. Just set the curvature to 1.

          Cheers,
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          • Michel
            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

            @cambrucedavis

            You are right, missed that one.

            Best
            Michel

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            • camilozk
              camilozk last edited by

              @vanakaru

              you patch works beautifully, and yes, it is very complicated. I will study it in order to understand it, but I am pretty sure it gets even more complicated as soon as I want to use an envelope with 2 or more segments.
              [@cambrucedavis](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/cambrucedavis)
              the pause input in Ease in-out 2D is exactly what I wish I have in envelope!! it is again not easy to work with this actor if have more than one segment.

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              • primaldivine
                primaldivine last edited by

                @camilozk
                you can tether multiple Ease in-out 2D actors (using the 'complete' trigger to start the next one) as if each one were a segment.

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                • camilozk
                  camilozk last edited by

                  @primaldivine

                  true. it is possible to draw a very complex envelope with multiple Ease in-out 2D actors, but then it gets again really complicated to pause the whole chain of Ease in-out 2D actors

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                  • jhoepffner
                    jhoepffner last edited by

                    Hello,

                    I just discover the post and I also search a way to have an envelope working like the command on a lightning desk:
                    – possibility to start/pause resume
                    – possibility to accelerate/decelerate/go backward
                    Each time I give a class about Isadora, that is one of the first question when we make the first video player with automated fade, how to stop it? to go backward?
                    I tried to do that with user actor using envelope, with duration, it can works, but not easy to use for begginers.
                    It could be a great value to have that, easy to use in the tools, hello Mark and brave developers!
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                    • m_theater
                      m_theater last edited by

                      @vanakaru

                      this one will deal with the timing and resets itself after one pass

                      57a896-stop-envelope-2.izz

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                      • vanakaru
                        vanakaru last edited by

                        Pretty clever

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                        • jhoepffner
                          jhoepffner last edited by

                          I make another proposition, with start/stop/resume/accel/decel/invert, it's a prototype, but show what I would find in a super envelope actor…

                          It's necessary to use the movie included (100 second 1 pixel movie).

                          61766c-superenvelope.zip

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                            Wolle West @m_theater last edited by

                            @m_theater hurra - this is genious - thanks for this idea - isadora life is going on

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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff @Wolle West last edited by

                              @wolle-west

                              There's also Ease In-Out 2D which is like an envelope Generator.

                              Pros:

                              • Built-in curvature
                              • Pause, Resume, and Trigger inputs
                              • Can change two values at once (it says X and Y but you can use them for whatever)

                              Cons:

                              • Unlike an Envelope Generator, it can only have one "segment"

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                                Wolle West @Woland last edited by

                                @woland - thanks a lot - this possibility is great too - however in my case i create a scene, where a satellite is circling round the moon  - so I need four segments to let the object fly in a circle - I looped the envelopes by retriggering themselves - but then how can I stop the loop :-) - captured in the endless universe !

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru @Wolle West last edited by

                                  @wolle-west

                                  you can put a gate actor in-between and trigger it to off. 

                                  Best Michel

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                                    Wolle West @Michel last edited by

                                    @michel - sorry for my delayed answer - the gate actor is perfect for stopping the whole process - but the envelope actor doesn't stop - so i found a solution with the pulse generator - i cannot stop and go whereever i want, but at least I can do that "behind the curtain" ;-) -

                                    if anybody is interested how to control a satellite in universe

                                    Satellit.zip


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                                      Wolle West @Wolle West last edited by

                                      Satellt.izz

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                                      • jfg
                                        jfg @Wolle West last edited by jfg

                                        @wolle-west

                                        my proposal for your problem:

                                        EDIT: a better version than the first I posted (pause/resume works better)

                                        satellt-JF.izz

                                        best

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                                          Wolle West @jfg last edited by

                                          @jfg - this is perfect - thanks a lot - the communication in this community is wonderful - what a luck to be part of it - i will study your proposal for being prepared for my next fly to universe

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                                          • Woland
                                            Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                                            It'd be great if you could share these example files on the Add-Ons page so that they can be found more easily by others in future <3

                                            Best wishes,

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