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    • keftaparty
      keftaparty last edited by

      Hi,

      I did some experimentations and shows projecting on frost plexiglass.
      I can give only one advice: 
      Try every material in the exact situation it will be used !
      I had one very bad experience: I tried one material with a long zoom projector, the image was ok.
      But at the end I had to use a wide angle projector. The center of the image was perfect, but all around the light was arriving on the surface with too much angle and was impossible to see !
      Also take care to the angle the "spectators" will have, with that kind of shiny surfaces you get very differrent results depending on the point of view.
      Have fun !
      Best
      Mehdi

      ...
      Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
      www.toutain-lopez.com

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      • CitizenJoe
        CitizenJoe last edited by

        @Skulpture - It sounds like a really interesting project!

        Given the situation, I would be inclined to go towards the really expensive films.  In small quantities they may be affordable and they will provide a good projection surface.  Most importantly, they won't affect how the viewer sees what's inside the case.  I would think that would be the #1 consideration from the museum's point of view.

        Cheers,

        Hugh

        Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
        Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6

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        • D
          dansnodgrass last edited by

          @skulpture.  If your prerequisite is to be able to see a sharp image and still have the glass to be transparent, there is really only one solution and it's expensive: HoloPro. Similar glass was used in the movie Minority Report.

          I installed and use an 8' wide HoloPro glass panel at my company for presentation purposes and it's amazing. To get clarity and transparency of glass, embedded holographic foil is really the only solution.  Otherwise, you need to go with rear-projection film (and of course, this means you won't get the transparency.
          Cheers.
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          • D
            dansnodgrass last edited by

            Here is our installation:

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            • particlep
              particlep last edited by

              this is an interesting thread.  i did some searching and found this uk outfit:

              http://www.prodisplay.com/index.html
              lcd glass is great, but does it go clear enough for a museum setting?

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              dyslexic.

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              • Victreux
                Victreux last edited by

                Hello,

                Some friends was worked on this show in Avignon. Verry cool projection on glass!

                http://www.theatre-video.net/video/Le-Livre-d-or-de-Jan-extrait-video

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  All brilliant stuff thanks all!

                  You've all really helped me out and given me lots to think about. 

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    @dansnodgrass the HoloPro is amazing and looks stunning but yes you are right... very expensive.

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • D
                      dansnodgrass last edited by

                      You'll also notice in the picture of the HoloPro, that the woman is interacting with the presentation.  This is facilitated through the use of the VIP Interactive TouchFoil produced by Visual Planet (and not available at a store near you for about $10,000 - for the 3'x8' foil you see in use here.)

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                      • mickey
                        mickey last edited by

                        ..projection on glass

                        ORGANIC
                        for the low tech end  (and of course budget) try buttermilk: applied thin with a foam paint roller it will dry after approx. 20 minutes (3 time s). it's a charming. try it before applying at the flagstore ,-).
                        and you can accentuate the vintage look with a brush etc, get a cleaner look with  airbrush (?)...   just  experiment!.. removes with water

                        PLASIC
                        (low end) we used to take frosted sandblast foils - they're not soo expensive and easy to remove. get some sample and try

                        have fun mickey

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