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    • DusX
      DusX Tech Staff last edited by Woland

      it looks to me like you have difference tracking working as expected in the file 'David v2'...

      However you are only sending midi with the tracking data. You video is not being effected.

      It's unclear to me what you are hoping to achieve. Please provide more of a description.

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      • Vidasonik
        Vidasonik last edited by

        @dusx said:

        t looks to me like you have difference tracking working as expected in the file 'David v2'...However you are only sending midi with the tracking data. You video I'd not being effected.It's unclear to me what you are hoping to achieve. Please provide more of a description.

         I don't understand 'only sending midi with tracking data ..' ?

        I want to achieve a ghost outline image of the dancer's movement but without the background. So the movement is projected on top of other video imagery.

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

          @vidasonik said:

          I want to achieve a ghost outline image of the dancer's movement but without the background. So the movement is projected on top of other video imagery.

          Then you need to connect that chain of effects to a Projector actor. Currently the only thing you have running to a Projector actor is a direct line from the Video In Watcher actor.

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          • Vidasonik
            Vidasonik last edited by

            OK but there is no video out on the eyes actor! Where do i connect the second projector to??

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            • Woland
              Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

              @vidasonik

              Eyes only exists for generating tracking data, that’s why it doesn’t have a video out. Connect a Projector to any actor up the chain from the Eyes actor.

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              • Vidasonik
                Vidasonik last edited by

                And then what? I just get me moving on top of me still! No moving white ghost outline on black background?

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                • Michel
                  Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by Michel

                  @vidasonik

                  If I look at your patch and read what you want, you don't need the eyes actor. The eyes actor gives you numbers not video/ghost image. In your patch you get the untouched video on the preview window because you have connected the "video in watcher" directly to the projector and nothing else. 

                  If you use a normal usb webcam you will have problems controlling the mask with the difference actor. Because of it's automatic fps and blend settings it will brake your freeze grab and the life input that get mixed. Use a camera where you have control over the settings and a capture device.

                  Next to all I wrote above, I sat at least 30 minutes to try to get a mask with the above approach, so you only see the dancer. I had no success. 

                  Best Michel

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                  • Woland
                    Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                    try

                    Video In Watcher > Difference > Motion Blur (set top parameter to “100” > Projector actor

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                    • Vidasonik
                      Vidasonik @Woland last edited by

                      @woland Thanks! Yes this is what I used to do - which is fine - but you get all the background along with the dancer.

                      I need to differentiate the dancer from the background which is why it seems to make sense to take a freeze shot of background WITHOUT dancer and then Izzy can subtract what remains UNCHANGED from the moving body! Graham Thorne showed me this freeze/eyes etc routine but I can't get it to work as I have said.

                      I use the web cam recommended in Izzy manual - I think its an HP one.

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                      • Vidasonik
                        Vidasonik last edited by

                        O yes here is the patch that works pretty well but still some background:

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                        • Vidasonik
                          Vidasonik last edited by

                          sorry didn't seem to attach anything!

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Hi.

                            Might sound obvious but you have to take the background image (by pressing P) with your body out of the live feed video.

                            Also remove the Live feed video out from the projector and connect it to the Effect Mixer Video out - you will see the result.

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                            • Vidasonik
                              Vidasonik last edited by

                              I just did this and this is the result!?

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                              • Vidasonik
                                Vidasonik last edited by

                                yes I've pressing 'p' after removing myself from the camera frame!

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by

                                  @vidasonik

                                  As I wrote in my post above I don't think you will get what you want this way. Next to that, if you leave the setting "additive" in the blend mode of the projector it will definitely not work as you want.

                                  Best Michel

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                                  • DusX
                                    DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                                    @vidasonik

                                    You may find you can clean away the background (somewhat) by adding a threshold actor. 
                                    Additionally, a Contrast actor, may allow you to 'tune out' the background shades as well.
                                    Its possible (depends on what you really want) that the TT Edge Detect glsl shader (requires downloading the bundle from the Plugins section) may provide some of what you want.

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                                    • Vidasonik
                                      Vidasonik last edited by

                                      Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

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                                      • crystalhorizon
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum @Vidasonik last edited by

                                        @vidasonik said:

                                        Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

                                         Thats Graham 😍

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                                        • Vidasonik
                                          Vidasonik last edited by

                                          Yes, but what he made 'seem' easy is, evidently, 'actually' impossible !

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                                          • Woland
                                            Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                                            @vidasonik

                                            I don’t know about impossible. What aspect of what you’re trying to do haven’t you been able to accomplish yet? We’re here to help.

                                            Best wishes,

                                            Woland

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