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Guru Session #13: Body Tracking with Depth Cameras (Fri May 8th, 6pm CEST/5pm GMT/12pm EDT/9am PDT)



  • Dear All,

    On Friday May 8th I hope Isadora users of all levels will join me for a special "guru session" where we dig deep into body and skeleton tracking using the OpenNI Tracker actor. You'll learn how to connect your Kinect v1, Kinect v2* (see below), Orbbec Astra, Intel Realsense depth cameras to Isadora and to use the OpenNI Tracker to sense the movements of one or more performers. You'll learn how to use the Skeleton Decoder to read the individual points of the performers skeleton, how to use that data to interactively control video and sound, and also how to use the depth map image itself in coordination with Isadora's Eyes or Eyes++ actor to perform simpler tracking tasks. As usual, I will take your questions live and do my best to answer them.

    If you want interactive tracking of the human body to be part of your artistic toolbox, then this is the session for you.

    About the Kinect v2: I hope to have a new version of the OpenNI Tracker that works with Kinect v2 (aka XBox ONE) for this session. That's why we won't have a session on Wednesday this week -- to ensure I have as much time as possible to add support for the Kinect v2 into the mix.

    Download links for the live stream link, along session materials (which will include any late breaking updates to the OpenNI Tracker plugin), will be posted here at 5:50pm CEST on Friday.

    I hope you'll all get out your Kinects and dance around with me on Friday!

    Best Wishes,
    Mark

    Watch the Live Stream (also good for viewing later)

    Download the session materials. (This upload will not be complete until 5:50pm! Please don't try to download before that!)


  • Beta Platinum

    Woop woop ! Excited for this one :) Currently researching how to sent body tracking over the internet using Rokoko Suits for a group of dancers.. So can't wait to see what you have been brewing for the Kinect sensors !


  • Beta Platinum

    What a great addition to Isadora3. I was blown away to find out I could have five depth cameras running simultaneously through five implementations of the OpenNi Tracker in a single patch and have then as skeleton representations stable on one Stage. We really pushed that in beta testing to make sure it was going to be a super viable module. And with the addition of a javascript three.js to get quaternion rotation for 3D skeleton body parts a whole new development opens up with this actor. It’s a really important extension of Isadora for interactive performances and installation work. Ideally it may become a strong spoke in Isadora’s hub allowing both simple and advanced approaches.

    Warm Regards

    Russell



  • Just for clarification, the Kinect actor native to Isadora has not been released into the wild yet, right?  It's still only available in beta?


  • Beta Platinum

    @knowtheatre

    It is released in public beta and can be found at the plugin page (https://troikatronix.com/plugi...)

    Be aware that the above version only works for Kinect 1 (Not the Kinect for Xbox One)


  • Beta Tester

    @juriaan I was just about to start looking into doing the same thing . I’d love to know more , if that’s ok?


  • Beta Platinum

    @n-jones

    Sure ! Will tag you in the thread that I'm planning to write about it.



  • Looking forward to this one.....been wrestling with my kinect1 for a couple of days ......



  • Looking forward to the Guru session.

    Loaded up the OpenNItracker for kinect v1 and its way better than the old NI Mate from years ago. I adapted a 3D cube that I normally control with a wiimote to be controlled in 3D space by my right hand (x,y,z) and spin controlled in the left. (x,y). This patch is developed for a stationary performer using hands only so far and I noticed a couple of problem:

    1- Noise- even when all limbs are completely still there is still a small float value changing causing unwanted movement. need to find a way to either gate it out with some small threshold in mind so the gate closes and stops the small values from passing or some other circuit that can ignore the tiny changing data when the performer is still. any ideas?

    2- when you arm is fully extended (hand z), the xy range is very limited physically.. so need a way to mathematically progressively scale the usable range better for x and y based on the z value. I don't really know what math and actor combo would accomplish this. anyone one have nay ideas?

    I have made a short demo video showing the patch in action.. and included the kinect and scaling section of my patch in case anyone is interested in adapting it or suggesting improvements to the concept. thanks:)

    Cube kinect control 1.izz

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...


  • Beta Platinum

    @demetri79 said:

    Noise- even when all limbs are completely still

     Did you try the smoothing property for this? 

    In terms of the 3D rotation there is a tutorial file download that provides the quaternion rotation three.js Javascript module for that: https://troikatronix.com/plugi...

    Kind Regards

    Russell


  • Tech Staff

    @demetri79 did you try the smoother actor?


  • Beta Tester

    @juriaan thanks 



  • yes i have all the skeleton tracker outputs feeding limit scales, then into smoothers.. I should have included a screenshot of the actors for people who didn't want to open the patch and have a look.. this doesn't totally eliminate the jitteriness while allowing for a responsive reaction time.. i dont want to completely choke the output otherwise once I move my hand it will take a while before the corresponding object motion happens... just have to keep experimenting with different approaches.

    the thing I am looking for is a math equation to progressively scale the hands x and y values based on its z value..

     My scenario is not an actual 3D file (.3ds) mine is made from quartz composer (CI) so I can input different videos to each side of the cube.. it looks 3D but isn't actually so that javascript actor provided in the tutorial for the sphere doesn't apply to my situation. I would have tired to use a .3ds cube but you can only utilize 1 texture input in isadora correct? so that means i can only play the same video on all side as apposed to what i want is different videos on each side.. my quartz cube actually has 7 video inputs.. (6 sides + a background behind the cube). that is what I would want in the 3D word but seems unachievable currently unless i am mistaken. My version also has other added benefits like being able to have all of the dimensions manipulated in realtime with an essentially infinate Width, Height, and depth.. so just need to work out some better scaling math. 

    The .3ds files do have a distort parameter but it is very limited in how much it can stretch and reshape compared to what mine can do.. that is another aspect I would like to explore to see if it is possible do more extreme reshaping of .3ds files.



  • @demetri79 said:

    I would have tired to use a .3ds cube but you can only utilize 1 texture input in isadora correct? so that means i can only play the same video on all side as apposed to what i want is different videos on each side.. my quartz cube actually has 7 video inputs.. (6 sides + a background behind the cube). that is what I would want in the 3D word but seems unachievable currently unless i am mistaken.

    Well, if you have a single cube wrapped with one texture, you can most definitely get a single image on each side. It's simply a matter of mapping the images into the right place in the texture you're feeding into the texture map. I would use a of Matte or Matte++ actors (one for each side) to get the individual images in the right place in the texture, and then feed the final output of that to the texture map input of the 3D Player actor.

    I'm sorry I can't provide an example the moment. I'm busy preparing for today's session. But maybe that's enough to get you going.

    Best Wishes,
    Mark



  • Dear Community,

    Here's the links for Guru Session #13: Body Tracking with Depth Cameras

    Watch the Live Stream (also good for viewing later)

    Download the session materials. (This upload will not be complete until 5:50pm! Please don't try to download before that time!)

    See you a few minutes!

    Best Wishes,
    Mark



  • @mark

    Live streams says private only.Probably not started yet, but usually you had it up ten minutes before. 


  • Tech Staff

    It says private session 



  • @mark YouTube says the video is private!?



  • Video private



  • @jfg 

    Sorry everyone for my mistake.

    The video is public now.

    Best Wishes,
    Mark