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    [ANSWERED] Dante and Isadora?

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    • Paz
      Paz Beta Tester @Fred last edited by

      @fred you are absolutely correct with your view point. Dante DVS works!

      It was more a case that I would prefer to invest my money in TroikaTronix than Audinate. 

      Currently I use DVS which costs approx £70 per licence (each computer requires it's own licence - this gets costly in education establishment). Having a TroikaTronix Dante actor similar to the NDI 5 actor that can offer both audio and video channels - Dante AV - would open up potential opportunities for integration into a system without the need for the additional Audinate software.

      @woland your points about Dante's cost implementation into Isadora are completely understood and I appreciate Audinate DVS is the way forward. 

      Best wishes, Simon

      Simon Powell: Researching Emerging Technologies in Live Performance at University of the Arts London.
      Running: Mac Studio M1 Max 32GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 | MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 / Izzy v4.09 /// UK

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      • Fred
        Fred @Paz last edited by

        @paz wow brexit really took its toll, it is €54 from the EU that would be- £46 (for the simple licence). I am guessing the extra is a brexit tax.

        I do understand the cost, and likely in an institution, just the pain of having to manage another licence. Looking at the landscape of Dante products, it seems only hardware tools have the Dante enabled built in structure - these hardware tools often run some kind of OS underneath so it is a bit confusing. I am really surprised Audinate have not released an Enterprise model for bulk licencing. For the cost however, havign Dante enabled mixing desks and some other IO gear mostly works out cheaper than getting soundcards.

        I can also imagine this would be an annoying scenario to build with - you would want to test and setup your project with a normal sound setup, like headphones and then when you go to plug into a system you have to rebuild (or double build on the fly). As isadoras audio routing is only for audio files, there isnt much to plug in to an audio out node as yet either.

        On another note Dante AV is a thing, but its pretty clunky. The video part of Dante only works on windows, and Dante studio, that deals with the video, needs to run separetly to the DVS audio stuff. I am guessing they will get things going cross platform and smoothly integrated some time in the future, but for now NDI is way beter for video.

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          Paz Beta Tester @Fred last edited by

          @fred Thank you for the in depth response your wise words are very helpful. 

          Regarding the cost, I had originally purchased DVS at the lower price you quoted, but then had to buy an additional transferable licence which costs approx £70 to enable me to swap my DVS licence between computers.

          Thanks again and best wishes!

          Simon Powell: Researching Emerging Technologies in Live Performance at University of the Arts London.
          Running: Mac Studio M1 Max 32GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 | MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 / Izzy v4.09 /// UK

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          • Armando
            Armando Beta Gold @Woland last edited by

            @woland I get it I'll link a post to MPEG H audio over ethernet.... Soon more on that

            Armando Menicacci
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            MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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            • Armando
              Armando Beta Gold @Fred last edited by

              @fred You are right Fred, I don't know well the system, but I have been to a AV expo where I talked to Audinate people quite a bit. And they pushed for it telling that when embedded in a software it could now bring together AES50 (Music Tribe, therefore Midas, Behringer etc...) Plus AES 67 (opensource dante-like protocol. But You are right, as I said, I don't know it well. The idea that in Isadora we might have a unified system for the 3 protocols is interesting.  

              Armando Menicacci
              www.studiosit.ca
              MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                lwebster @kirschkematthias last edited by

                @kirschkematthias Thank you so much! So, we just need the DVS and the free app, not a network adapter?

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                  lwebster @Fred last edited by

                  @fred Thank you! Another person said they just needed the DVS and a free controller app - but in your experience, we also need to purchase a network adapter?

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                  • Fred
                    Fred @lwebster last edited by

                    @lwebster you can’t use wifi so if your computer doesn’t have a network port you need the Ethernet adapter. 

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                      lwebster @Fred last edited by

                      @fred Oh I see, so it can be any adapter to hardwire into ethernet, it doesn't have to be one of Dante's AVIO networking adaptors?

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                      • Armando
                        Armando Beta Gold @lwebster last edited by

                        @lwebster Yes

                        Armando Menicacci
                        www.studiosit.ca
                        MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                          lwebster @Armando last edited by

                          @armando Gotcha, thank you!

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