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    • J
      jtsteph last edited by

      I would like to recompress my media to AVI or WMV to take advantage of the new "windows native" payback engine. Can anyone recommend a codec/pipeline?

      Currently I have found that WMVs using Windows Media 9 Advanced seems interesting as offloads some of the processing on to the GPU.

      Please let me know if you have any recommendations.

      Thanks,

      • Justin

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      • DusX
        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

        I suggest using the free Microsoft media encoder. It will bulk convert your files rather quickly, and has many options available. I generally can find a preset that suits my needs.

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        • J
          jtsteph last edited by

          Thanks DusX,

          Thanks for your note.

          I am having a really challenging time finding a compression method that will give me solidly smooth playback. For 95% of what I am doing, the occasional skipped frame is not an issue. I do, however, have one long animated pan that look awful with skipped frames. I've tried running isadora at 29.97, 30, 60fps, quicktime, and wmv:

          1280X960 75% PJPEG 30fps, and 29.97 fps
          960X720 same
          720X540 same

          I have also tried WMV using Windows media 9 advanced, 9, 8, and 7.

          Nothing I have tried is giving me smooth playback. I am running this all off my G750JH from an SSD and GTX780M with 4GB vram.

          These clips playback without a hitch in VNC.

          At this point, I am settling for quicktime as it is seems to suffer the least from these issues.

          I would love to hear any input you might have. We are shooting dress on Wednesday and will try a few more things before then.

          Best,

          = Justin

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

            Not sure I have anything to offer, sorry.
            It seems that your machine should be able to handle playback (first reading I thought video card?)
            I don't have any slow clear pan type videos to do a test with, so I can't even confirm the behavior locally (Unless you want to drop box it to me?)

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            • J
              jtsteph last edited by

              Hi dusx. Here is a link! https://db.tt/xWTcvkuQ Would love to here your thoughts. Thanks. J

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              • DusX
                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                ah looks like I was too slow.

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                • J
                  jtsteph last edited by

                  I have it working in a way that is passable right now using quicktime - which I find much more reliable when playing multiple clips. We're doing a 5 day run, so any input would still be appreciated!

                  I suspect that there might be a mac in my future :-(

                  Best,

                  • J

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                  • J
                    jtsteph last edited by

                    Well we just finished up the run. Super fun. The piece was very well received.

                    In the work, I found that the Native Windows player introduced a few issues:

                    • I found that it dropped a lot of frames
                    • I found that it would randomly not play clips. If I had 2 or three clips in a scene, it would play the first two but not the third. If I restarted Isadora, it would play them fine until this issue popped up again.

                    With these two issues present, I went back to using quicktime as it was much more reliable and it dropped less frames.

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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                      I can't say I have noticed frame-drops, but that may be due in part to the style of many of my videos.
                      but videos not playing, I think I have come across this bug before, and found a work around.. This should probably be looked into in more detail.
                      I will run some tests.. if I remember correctly there is a case were the video player does init and requires a quick switch of a playback parameter.

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear DusX,

                        Yes, please investigate and let me know what you find out.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          Will do.

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