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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      The demo will remain the same; meaning the new release will have a demo you can test.

      I am 98% sure about this but please wait for the **official** statements from Mark on the said date.

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • djinoui
        djinoui last edited by

        That's great news, indeed! Looks very promising.

        I'm still not sure if I will buy the upgrade but I perfectly understand that all this hard work needs to be rewarded.

        Computer: Asus N76VZ PC, Windows 7x64, Intel I7, 6G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06
        Isadora SDK dev computer: VirtualBox PC, Windows XPx32, 2G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06

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        • chimerik
          chimerik Beta Platinum last edited by

          Finally the world gets to be excited for this huge step-up for Izzy!!!

          I am so happy for you, Mark. Thank you for all the amazing hard work that you've done, and still working away. We support you 100% without a doubt.
          This is a big news for the new media art world. As you're integrating even more powerful features that some of the popular softwares might even just provide one of them, and most of them have a much bigger team developing it!
          It will be worth the upgrade for sure. Even just knowing that we won't need to use additional mapping software and just do it within the new Izzy, it already save us money and so much trouble as well. 
          big ups,
          Sammy

          Sammy Chien (Chimerik 似不像) chimerik.com
          Izzy 3.2.6 (standard, Mac)
          Mac Studio (2022) M1 Max OS 12.3
          MBP 16' (2019) 2.4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9, AMD Radeon Pro 5600M 8 GB, OS X 10.15.5
          MBP 15' (late 2013) 2.6 Ghz i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, OS X 10.12.4
          Located in Vancouver, CA/Taipei, TW

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          • jhoepffner
            jhoepffner last edited by

            Mark,

            I have the number 32 licence… not paying any upgrade since then, You deserve a contribution for your work!
            Thanks, Jacques

            Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
            GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
            MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
            MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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            • crystalhorizon
              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

              Going to pay for the update for sure. I had the pleasure to work with the pro version for my last project in february. The mapping features, edge blend, etc are really great. Isadora really changed the way of my artistic work. Thank you Mark, Jamie, Graham, Gavin and this great community for sharing your knowledge.

              All the best from Vienna,
              Alex

              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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              • dbini
                dbini last edited by

                i'm remounting a show next year and i was thinking i'd have to spend €360 on a MadMapper license to speed up the mapping that i originally created in Isadora. I'm very happy to pay for an upgrade to be able to do this within Izzy. Nice one Mark.

                a lot of people ask me why Isadora remains my weapon of choice. its Mark's commitment to developing it, and the supportive nature of this community that keeps it firing on all cylinders.
                many thanks,
                john

                John Collingswood
                taikabox.com
                2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                • kdobbe
                  kdobbe last edited by

                  Congratulations Mark!

                  The mapping feature sounds like a great integrated element.  Currently, I have been integrating the MadMapper system and have been very happy with the program.  However, there is currently an issue that only two full screen video feeds can sent from Izzy/Syphon to MadMapper.  If the included Izzy Mapper allows MORE than the current multi-stage ceiling limitation of syphon-madmapper,and is as easy to create mapping,  that would be a value that would make anyone doing mapping upgrade!
                  Looking forward to working with v2
                  Kevin

                  Mac Studio M2-Ultra, MacBook Pro M1 Ultra. OSX-14.4.1

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                    lpearse last edited by

                    Psyched!!! Seriously, the quality of support and the upgrades that have already been provided in the past 3 years I've been using Izzy would be worth an upgrade fee already. Really looking forward to this Lukas

                    www.lukaspearse.ca

                    Isadora Core + USB,
                    MBP 2008 2.6, 6 GB RAM, Mac Mini 2011 2.5 i7 16 GB RAM
                    MAX/MSP-Jitter, Ableton LIve, NI Mate, Syphon, Synapse... also Logic, Pro Tools, Adobe CS, Sibelius

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                    • mark
                      mark last edited by

                      Dear All,

                      Thank you for the kind and enthusiastic responses. To @jhoepffner specifically: I want you to know that, on the roadmap, Unicode support will happen in the next release immediately after 2.0\. I know you've been waiting for that for ages.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear @djinoui,

                        I appreciate you saying that you might not buy the upgrade. Criticisms are welcome in this thread too.. so, at this important juncture in Isadora's history, it would be good to hear why you would choose not to upgrade. That helps us to understand our users needs better.
                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          PatrickPagano last edited by

                          Hey dbini i have a mapper that might save you some moolah--one we wrote here. That brings up my question 1.) will objects created with the SDK still work on 2.0? Also i have SPOUT working already from MAX to isadora, is there something i am missing about that?

                          pp
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                          • mark
                            mark last edited by

                            Dear Patrick,

                            Yes, objects created with the 1.0 SDK will work with 2.0.
                            In terms of Spout working with Isadora for Windows, how did you get that to work? The support we are providing is through FreeFrameGL, which is only in the new version. Maybe there's another way of which I'm not yet aware.
                            Best Wishes,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • gapworks
                              gapworks last edited by

                              No doubt that i will upgrade! And maybe now its about time to thank mark for his never ending effort, and the community of this forum for there excellent support!

                              best
                              peter

                              Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                              • simon
                                simon last edited by

                                I'm particularly looking forward to trying out the new mapping feature. How does this development relate to the Pro Isadora version that I've heard mentioned previously? does 2.0 contain the Pro features or is that a separate version/product?

                                My practice is quite broad so I tend to have periods of intense Isadora use and then might not use it for many months so I probably wouldn't upgrade until I need those new features for a project but I totally support the need for continued investment in the software's development.
                                I've experienced quite a few negative comments about Isadora's perceived stability for use in show conditions from theatre technical departments I've worked with here in the UK, it can be quite a challenge to persuade them to use my software of choice. I know Mark works really hard to do what he can to ensure stability but I think this perception needs to be addressed in terms of features that add redundency (perhaps the ability to run a mirror patch on a backup computer*) but also maybe a list of shows that the software has been used for to help build confidence within the industry (in the way that Figure 53 has 'Showcases' of Qlab use).
                                *Out of the box without adding that capacity to every patch
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                                • djinoui
                                  djinoui last edited by

                                  Dear @mark,
                                  I'm very excited about this new version, but I just don't need it for the moment. Our current project doesn't need mapping nor HAP. Spout integration is great but according to my tests, webcam -> Processing -> SpoutCam (Spout virtual camera) should be sufficient for us.
                                  Our budget for this show is also quite low.
                                  But if I start another VJ project I will reconsider my choice. Isadora's modular approach is great for creativity, and its brilliant community also had a big influence when I wondered if we should buy version 1\. So in the meantime, I will of course give the demo a try. In the end, it will mostly depend on the price of the upgrade, unless I really need these new functionalities. Once again I agree that you deserve to be paid for your work so that's fine if you finally ask for a fee, considering the gap you have been filling this year.
                                  By the way, do you plan keeping on releasing bug fixes for v1? Not that there are a lot of bugs remaining, but I suppose people in the same situation are also wondering about it.
                                  All the best,
                                  djinoui

                                  Computer: Asus N76VZ PC, Windows 7x64, Intel I7, 6G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06
                                  Isadora SDK dev computer: VirtualBox PC, Windows XPx32, 2G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06

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                                  • Victreux
                                    Victreux last edited by

                                    Isadora is a professional software for professional shows.  Please ask for the money you need to stay competitive, and to have the infrastructure to fast  THINK, DEVELOP and SUPPORT new features.

                                    Victor
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                                    • mark
                                      mark last edited by

                                      @djinoui

                                      Thanks for your thoughtful response.
                                      To answer this question: "Do you plan keeping on releasing bug fixes for v1."
                                      The answer is yes. The 1.5.3f23 version I've uploaded to the pre-release page does exactly that.
                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      • Kathmandale
                                        Kathmandale last edited by

                                        This is great news.

                                        Isadora has been such a huge influence on my work, I now use it in situations that I never would have imagined when I first drew a red line between two grey dots.
                                        Glad to have the opportunity to contribute with a fee as well, feels like it's been too long!
                                        All the very best wishes,
                                        Andrew

                                        2014 MBP Mojave 10.14.6 OS with 16GB, 2.5Ghz i7 quad core, Intel Iris Pro 1536 & Geforce GT 750m 2GB - Izzy 3.0.8
                                        Gigabyte Brix Windows 10 with 32GB, i7-6700 quad core, 4GB GeForce GTX 950 - Izzy 3.0.8
                                        Based in Manchester, UK.

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                                        • mockej
                                          mockej last edited by

                                          I am definitely behind this process... I know that paying for the upgrade will be a true investment in the development of the platform and the very real efforts of Mark and the team. Also, having a properly constituted (and paid) team around Mark to roll out the work seems like an overdue necessity!

                                          I also agree with @simon that a database / info section on works that have used Isadora will be incredibly useful, also from an educational point of view. Perhaps a standard image / synopsis / production info / links template? Upcoming shows can then also be flagged... 
                                          Very excited to see the mapping capabilities... 
                                          All the best, 
                                          Mocke

                                          rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                                          • crystalhorizon
                                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                            One feature would be interesting to develop: some kind of audio mixer for surround Sound. That would really had helped in our last project. The only suggestions I got from the community regarding this was Apps outside Isadora and a not really as intuitive and handy as it could be inside Isadora. See also this post: http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/1069/routing-audio-to-different-outputs

                                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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