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    • MatthewH
      MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

      We have discussed this in person, Mark, but to answer your question directly, my current perceptions about Isadora's stability or lack thereof are based exclusively on first hand experiences that I have had over the course of using Isadora on dozens of installation and live performance projects over the past few years. While Isadora has typically, though not always, been reasonably stable once we get a show open, frequent crashes during the programming process, tech, and previews are the rule not the exception. While we are often pushing the performance envelope of Isadora, a complete crash isn't an acceptable failure mode vs slow framerates. Additionally, bugs like the issue with dongles losing connection that continue to go unresolved weaken our ability to feel safe using Isadora on certain segments of projects, particular when we know that a qualified programmer won't be there to babysit it. For example, we have a several hundred thousand dollar installation project that has been running for several months using four computers running Isadora and we have had near weekly service calls to our shop for software related issues. Many of us know that this has not always been the case with Isadora which is why you have so many loyal users (myself and many of my colleagues included) and I hope that we will be able to get back to a point where it is no longer the case.

      Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        Dear @MatthewH.

        Thank you for your very honest assessment. I am doing all that I can to ensure that 2.0 will be as stable as humanly possible.
        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • camilozk
          camilozk last edited by

          Viva Isadora and thank you very much Mark!

           The love and dedication with which you lead this project, allowing all of us to give life to our creative ideas, is as inspiring as the tool itself.
          thanks.-

          i5 M520 @ 2.40GHz / 4Gb Ram / Win 7 - izzy 2.2.2
          i7 7700HQ @ 2.8GHz / 16Gb Ram / Win 10 - izzy 2.6.1 / GeForce GTX 1060
          AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 16Gb Ram / Windows 11 / Radeon Graphics 3.20 GHz

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

            I find Isadora to be very stable. It allows nearly anything to be done, and manages to remain stable. The biggest problems I have ever had or tried to help with have always been user error based.
            Isadora allows me to create nearly anything I can think of.

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            • crystalhorizon
              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

              I think there should be a new series of tutorials for the new features(edge blend, mapping, etc)

              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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              • Bill Cottman
                Bill Cottman last edited by

                Yes, please... tutorials for the new edge blending and mapping features.

                http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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                • willystyle
                  willystyle last edited by

                  Hi Mark

                  I'm thrilled about the new upgrade, Izzymap looks amazing! This looks to be the start of a new era for Isdaora, and I wish you the best of luck. Without wishing to tear you away from your final coding and testing, are you able to say how likely it is that the upgrade will be released before the end of this month (If at all?). We are planning to upgrade all our licences at the university, and would like to see if we can get it into this years budget?
                  Thanks.
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                  • willystyle
                    willystyle last edited by

                    Sorry, I've just read the timeline again and found the release date for the 31st...

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                    • goodboy
                      goodboy last edited by

                      Congrats Mark 

                      ...and to the new additions to the staff Jamie, Ryan, Michael, and Graham.
                      So looking forward to upgrading, I have to say living off the remote west coast of Ireland and suddenly realising you screwed up a show thru human error, I rest in the knowledge that there will be a quick response from you and the team with a solution (as it has done many times in the past with clear and precise instructions)  
                      Joe

                      Macbook Pro 2020 / 13' M1 chip / 16GB Memory / Big Sur

                      MacBook Pro (2017) - Intel Core i7 - 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 - Radeon Pro 560 4 GB
                      Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB

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                      • primaldivine
                        primaldivine last edited by

                        Great to meet you, Joe :)

                        Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                        • crystalhorizon
                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                          Looking at my calender... Is tomorrow the big day?

                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                          • primaldivine
                            primaldivine last edited by

                            @feinsinn Annoucement coming later today... :)

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                            • Armando
                              Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                              Thrilled!!!!

                              Armando Menicacci
                              www.studiosit.ca
                              MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                              • mark
                                mark last edited by

                                We're not quite there in terms of the final final release, but we're ready for the enthusiasts to get on board. See my announcement.

                                -- M

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • Armando
                                  Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                  Isadora in her new dress is a hottie!!!!

                                  Armando Menicacci
                                  www.studiosit.ca
                                  MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                                  • eight
                                    eight last edited by

                                    @mark: I am nearing a tech phase, and would appreciate it if you could let me know approximate time frame of the 2.0 final availability. This will help enormously in planning, scoping additional software development etc.

                                    Thanks.
                                    --8

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                                    • mark
                                      mark last edited by

                                      Dear @eight,

                                      Right now, I don't want to estimate. I need to evaluate where we are, and I want my prediction to be accurate. That being said, if you need solid HD playback, the beta is already a very strong candidate for your project.
                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      • crystalhorizon
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                        Cool, filled out the form. Can´t wait getting the beta.

                                        All the best,
                                        Alex

                                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                        • laurentR
                                          laurentR last edited by

                                          Hello, Mark & friends,
                                          So excited to take the new baby in hand…  But I must have strong arguments to convince my company to buy the upgrade for the next project. Project including live chroma key on green screen, preferably in HD!
                                          Will 2.0 be more efficient with keying in term of frame rate? Is there some kind of CI chroma key on board?
                                          Will there be a demo version soon or later to try this feature?
                                          I wish I can avoid another soft I like much less, but which handle keying well… You know the one with an 8... :-(

                                          MBP 15' 2019 & MBP 13' 2015 - OSX10.14 & MP 2.8Ghz QC Xeon + GTX660 - OSX10.12 / Isadora 2.6.1/3.2 - Located France

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by

                                            Dear @laurentR

                                            To answer your questions:
                                            **Will 2.0 be more efficient with keying in term of frame rate?**
                                            Absolutely. I am easily playing 4 x 1920x1080 H264 clips at the same time on my i7 laptop with a standard 5400 RPM drive. 30fps, totally solid.
                                            **Will there be a demo version soon or later to try this feature?**
                                            Yes, I hope to have it in the next few days.
                                            **Is there some kind of CI chroma key on board?**
                                            Apple has an example of doing chroma key with CI. I've wanted to get this into Isadora, but there just hasn't been time. I'll see what I can do. But also, since Isadora will now support FreeFrameGL, there may be existing FFGL plugins that do chroma key on the GPU. Please take a moment and do a search... maybe you can inform us all about what you find. ;-)
                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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