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    Introducing MYO muscle tension sensor (it seems no one has posted that yet)

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    • dbini
      dbini last edited by

      this seems like it could be a good way to go about getting data from dancers on stage. when using an OSC wrapper, do you get raw OSC data, or just OSC that relates to the gestures recognised by the API?

      and what is the range of the bluetooth?
      thanks,
      john

      John Collingswood
      taikabox.com
      2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
      plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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      • bennid
        bennid last edited by

        Hi guys and thanks for your replies,

        I saw in documentation that osc should be on 7777 port but i got nothing in osculator, izadora nore max udp tester... I suppose i have to put it somewhere or run something ... I m a bit lost;-)

        John good new, they provide a bluetooth usb dongle ( myo is not recognize by traditional macbook bluetooth card) So with usb wire extension you can set it where you want.

        Yesterday i tested with vlc control app and 10 m + 2 slim walls were more or less ok, so it seems the same than traditional bluetooth.
        Bests Ben

        www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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        • dbini
          dbini last edited by

          cheers Ben

          John Collingswood
          taikabox.com
          2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
          plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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          • bennid
            bennid last edited by

            Hi,
            I found a bridge for PC or mac aviable,
            Unfortunately it doesn't work on mine,... for the moment !

            https://github.com/benkuper/MyOSC

            jgastonraoul i'm sorry i'm just unknowledged in Quarz, can it help me to retrive osc messages? (I thought it was dedicated to video)

            Thanks

            www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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            • J
              jgastonraoul last edited by

              Hi !

              I've done some tests about Myo bluetooth some months ago and it appears to be very reliable : the range is quite good (at least 10m without walls) and when I went down then up a floor disconnection and reconnection where totally transparent.
              Currently there is 2 OSC bridges (or wrapper) for Myo : 
               - Myo OSC which is a command line tool : https://github.com/samyk/myo-osc
               - MyOSC which is an Adobe Air application : https://github.com/benkuper/MyOSC
              I've been able to have both working some months ago, but SDK versions are releasing very often and developers have some delay in there releases. I've just asked both of them to update their app I think they will do it when they'll have some time...
              On my side, i'm trying to have QCMyo working in Quartz Composer in order to be able to create an actor for Isadora. There is something wrong while loading plugin in QC and I'll try to investigate further in the next few days...
              Regards,
              Jeremie

              MBP mid 2012 - quad-core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB RAM - 512GB SSD - OS 10.9.5
              http://jgastonraoul.tumblr.com

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              • bennid
                bennid last edited by

                Hi,

                Thanks Jeremiejgastonraoul,

                Can you try to explain shorlty how you proceed to get osc in isa or max?
                 (do you launch the myo connect app before? what is the osc-route? MyOSC's read me talks about sending "/myosc/register" on port 9000, with 3 arguments (string, string, int) : connectionID (arbitrary) / host (your IP) / port (to receive OSC Messages)

                Sorry to be a newbie but,
                 what is a string? (else than for connecting boxes of course.. ) should i write #0 / 127.0.0.1 / 6000

                the only message i got for myosc is that port is already in use...

                Thanks!

                www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                • J
                  jgastonraoul last edited by

                  Hi,

                  Sorry for the delay, but I have some problems with my device which doesn't keep synced. I've emailed the support team and I'm waiting for an answer.
                  Which app are you trying to use ?
                  The message to send via OSC on port 9000 is : /myosc/register test 127.0.0.1 6000
                  But you have to be sure that in Isadora/Preferences/Net, the OSC input port is 6000.
                  I try to prepare an Isadora patch in the next few days and keep you updated...
                  Regards,
                  Jérémie

                  MBP mid 2012 - quad-core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB RAM - 512GB SSD - OS 10.9.5
                  http://jgastonraoul.tumblr.com

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                  • crystalhorizon
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                    Really interested in that device for dancers/performers on stage and getting OSC messages into Isadora. Directly or via Osculator...

                    10 meters range sounds good, also that you can plug the bluetooth device via cable somewhere near to the stage. 

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • Armando
                      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                      I'll wait to see the sync problems before diving into it

                      Thanks everybody

                      Armando Menicacci
                      www.studiosit.ca
                      MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        I also read about a lot of sync problems in their forum

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • J
                          jgastonraoul last edited by

                          Hi !

                          I did some more tests tonight.
                          It looks like touching a metallic laptop (i.e. Macbook Pro for example) with power plugged while wearing Myo is involved in a part of syncing problems.
                          With MyOSC, I can get Myo data into Isadora via OSC.
                          Here are the steps : 
                          - download and install MyOSC following the steps here : [https://github.com/benkuper/MyOSC](https://github.com/benkuper/MyOSC) ;
                          - right click on app icon, display informations and deactivate App Nap ;
                          - install and launch Myo Connect ;
                          - launch Isadora ;
                          - launch app and click on the "+" icon to add a connection ;
                          - change osc port of the connection by double clicking on the port and entering the same value that OSC port in Isadora preferences ;
                          - open OSC window in Isadora and check "Auto detect inputs" ;
                          - after some movements and gestures, click on "renumber ports" and close OSC window.
                          Then, you just have to add osc listener actors for each input that interest you...
                          Let me know if it works.
                          Regards,
                          Jeremie
                          PS : I sometimes have problems to launch MyOSC (it often crashes at startup...).

                          MBP mid 2012 - quad-core i7 2.3GHz - 16GB RAM - 512GB SSD - OS 10.9.5
                          http://jgastonraoul.tumblr.com

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                          • crystalhorizon
                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                            @jgastonraoul thanx for detailed instructions

                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                            • dbini
                              dbini last edited by

                              thanks Jeremie, that's all useful information.

                              John Collingswood
                              taikabox.com
                              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              • Aolis
                                Aolis last edited by

                                Just introduced my current class to the Myo and thought this video might prove useful to someone here some day. After running into issues in the room with xCode not being installed, I made a short video showing a quick overview of getting the OSC data into Isadora. The video assumes that you understand the basic networking of ip addresses and only shows the basic workflow of getting the sensor data stripped from the Myo Connect software via Myosc (which requires xCode and the myo.framwork to be installed)  broadcasting to Isadora over OSC.  https://vimeo.com/142170065

                                Media Artist & Teacher
                                MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                • dbini
                                  dbini last edited by

                                  For all those still interested in using a MYO - I have some good news.

                                  myOSC was great for a while, but not very stable, so i've been looking for something to replace it with and found something better.
                                  MyoMapper by Balandino di Donato
                                  http://www.balandinodidonato.com/blog/myomapper-beta/
                                  I just Installed it and it instantly started kicking out useful OSC streams on port 5432.

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                                  John Collingswood
                                  taikabox.com
                                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    @dbini thats great thank you for sharing!

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                    • crystalhorizon
                                      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                      Anyone has more experience with Myo in the meantime?

                                      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                      • crystalhorizon
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by crystalhorizon

                                        just received my MYO. Works fine right of the box with myo mapper and Isadora 

                                        A first quick test

                                        I was able to interpret the first 2 OSC channels as x and y. Now I have to find out what the other numbers mean

                                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                        • crystalhorizon
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                          Got an answer by Balandino di Donato the developer of Myomapper. This is the link to the OSC specifications https://github.com/balandinodidonato/MyoMapper/wiki/OSC-Communication

                                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                          • dbini
                                            dbini @crystalhorizon last edited by

                                            i got my second MYO last week - now my dancers can be more symmetrical

                                            John Collingswood
                                            taikabox.com
                                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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