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    Deactivate all other scenes while activating one ? (exclusive activation)

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    • N
      nick last edited by

      heres the image c147f0-jumpingscenes.png

      MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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      • vanakaru
        vanakaru last edited by

        I do not understand the problem maybe. d1b416-trigger-scene5.izz

        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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        • bennid
          bennid last edited by

          Hi Nick,
          indeed your solution is great, i should have thought that...
          but in case my midi notes number are modified (with trigger value) to match the correct scene,
          and if i modify the relation note>scene, then i have to modify this part of patch in each scene ( maybe i could avoid it with a macro that modifies all if changed/saved)...

          so i did that awfull patch, hope this would serve someone else than me,
          thanks for your remarks or anything that could help me improv.

          Thx

          b3f4e1-solo-scene-macro-web.izz

          www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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            nick last edited by

            you could use the data array actor with a text file and have the scene numbers on different lines - you can use the recall input to retrieve the contents of individual lines based on the midi note value

            in the image contents of /demo.txt are 
            5
            4
            3
            2
            1
            it is at the root level of the drive
            recalling value 1 gets 5 etc...
            editing the individual file would be reflected in each data array actor

            69db7b-dataarray.tiff

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              nick last edited by

              more forum friendly picture format ce04b9-dataarray.png

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                nick last edited by

                if you want to use the activate deactivate method with a scene that controls others (without needing so many wires) you could do it like this 323346-activate.png

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                • bennid
                  bennid last edited by

                  Hi 1000 thanks Nick, this really helps a lot !

                  (for screenshot was ok after save target as ;-)

                  CU

                  www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                  • bennid
                    bennid last edited by

                    Basically,
                    Value Delay line is THE solution to deactivate previews input, perfect !
                    Data Array helps me to route inputs to expected scenes so ... Marvellous !
                    THX A LOT !

                    www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                    • bennid
                      bennid last edited by

                      Hi, Nick,
                      now the only probem will be to reactivate the same scene several times in a row...
                      any idea?

                      www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                      • vanakaru
                        vanakaru last edited by

                        Add trigger delay to deactivate the scene first and tweak delay times to de- and activate. 73f56a-trigger-only-one-scene.izz

                        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                        • bennid
                          bennid last edited by

                          The problem is that i need a modul to compare "value delay line" to gate its output off in case scene is retriggered it seems to work... but if you got any better solution?
                          Thx !

                          76cd9f-capture-decran-2015-10-13-a-12.21.19.png e8b2d1-1-_-h-m-web.izz

                          www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                          • bennid
                            bennid last edited by

                            Sorry Vanakaru (just read your post),
                            your solution is great, cos it allows re-triggering the scene ( the movie will restart, and i'll choose that since I'm synced with ableton timeline (metronome start for musicians, keyb player enveloppes, midi drum set changes),
                            BUT,
                            if the guy triggering piano keyboard maybe a bit clumbsy i'll use my method that just don't deactivate the 2nd time activation...
                            depends !
                            Thx so much to help me learn ;-)

                            www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                            • vanakaru
                              vanakaru last edited by

                              Without going into your patch too deep you may consider that there are other ways to trigger movies than activating scenes. Like entering movie nr into Player Actor, speed 0-1. That would allow you to restart the movie without a need to reactivate the scene.

                              Also if your press keyboard a bit clumsy all that happens is the scene re-triggers in a fraction of a second.

                              MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                              • bennid
                                bennid last edited by

                                Hi Vankaru,
                                yes sure, I intend to trigger movie inside scenes with controllers for all "FX style" parts,
                                and play with their numbers and position !
                                That's why for this written liveset timeline part i want to be sure there's no interference and that the good movie is loaded. Also because there's a precise launching in the ableton live set, and sometimes click's automation come after movie start, ... there are tones of keyboard , waves , drumset triggered via timeline, lot's of thing are automatized,
                                and then i can have my glitch zone were I want ;-)

                                Hope I'm clear.
                                ( the clumbsy saxophonist sends midi while playing ;-)

                                www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                                  nick last edited by

                                  I don't really understand what it is that you now want to do.

                                  If the same scene is triggered again (while in that scene) do you want that to be ignored, or something in the scene to be reset to a starting state.

                                  MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                                  • bennid
                                    bennid last edited by

                                    Hi Nick,
                                    My solution allows to trigger once, then repeated inputs are ignored until another key pressed,
                                    and i prefer Vankaru 's solution because trigers are on the time line so if we start again it will follow and it's perfect !
                                    it's solved!

                                    www.le-spang.fr www.lematrice.com

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                                      nick last edited by

                                      Thats great

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                                      • gapworks
                                        gapworks last edited by

                                        @ vanakaru

                                        this is an excellent solution!! thanks 

                                        Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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