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    Syphon with izz 2.1

    Troubleshooting and Bug Reports
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    • Michel
      Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

      @fredvaillant

      The "syphon server" is a 3rd party actor and not a default Isadora actor, you get it from: syphon-implementations.googlecode.com/files/Syphon for FreeFrameGL Public Beta 2.dmg

      I don't understand : avoids a video larsen between 2 patches, what does larsen mean?

      Best Michel

      Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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      • fredvaillant
        fredvaillant last edited by

        Larsen : If I have in my MBP's patch a video in watcher from cam A and a Syphon receiver from MacPro's patch where I have a video in watcher from cam B and a Syphon receiver from MBP patch, I can't have independent mix on MBP and MacPro because I catch the Stage of each Mac and not what I only want.

        So in the MBP's patch I'll have 2 time cam A : one from the video in watcher and one from the Syphon receiver from MacPro because I have the Syphon receiver of MBP present in the patch of the MacPro.
        And I'll have the same in the other side for cam B.
        I don't know if in english I'm clear enough but it happens what I mean.
        For the Syphon client bundle, it appears on my MBP in the FreeFrame GL actors list on izz but I don't know where to put the bundle on the MacPro.
        (I tried to put in izz/contents/frameworks but it doesn't appear.)
        Merci,
        Fred

        MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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        • Michel
          Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

          @fredvaillant

          Still don't really understand what you mean, but you can put the cam A and B inputs onto stage 2 then send the syphon signal from stage 2 to the other computer and fetch the syphon stream on both computers to stage 1.

          In the .dmg file you have downloaded there is also a "Read Me.rtf" file, there you can read that it goes to:  /Library/Graphics/FreeFrame Plug-Ins/

          Best Michel

          Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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          • fredvaillant
            fredvaillant last edited by

            I first tried that but if the cam is not visible on stage 2 ( projector actor not active or intensity 0 or not chosen in the izz preferences and placed on a real Display), the image doesn't appear in the TCPSyphonclient...

            And if I use simple patch : a video in watcher + a syphon stage output + a stage receiver on the same stage my cam image enters in a loop, get burned and the patch crashes .
            For the install, I read the file, went in Macintosh HD/Library/Graphics and there : no "FreeFrame Plug-Ins file" so I created it and dragged and dropped the 2 bundles.
            Restarted izz and "nada", no trace of Syphonclient.
            I tried the same in the Macintosh HD/Library/Graphics_/Frameworks_/ by chance, but without more success.
            I tried to touch to System/Library/Graphics/ nuts as I am, but "nichts", then I turned around the contents files of izz app and "niente"
            Here where I am.

            MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

              @fredvaillant

              But why is it a problem having the floating window of stage 2 open? and the syphon receiver has to go to stage 1, then you will not have the burning effect.

              Well the default freeframe folder of isadora is: /Library/Application Support/FreeFrame/, forgot to say that.

              Best Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • fredvaillant
                fredvaillant last edited by

                Sorry to have those lacks, It's maybe very easy but I don't know how to have a floating window of stage 2 (force stage preview ?) and a full window on stage 1 together.

                Do you use the general stage options  (by the way I don't see what it changes if I disable the option floating windows) ? or the trick of half or third from Matrox ? Or do you use a monitor with an actor/ control split ?
                One last question, after I'll take time to practice with this new version and find answers by myself : I didn't find in the release notes of izz 2.0 (and didn't see by myself) the use/effect of the Stage Live edit (cmd 2).
                Merci
                Fred

                MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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                • jhoepffner
                  jhoepffner last edited by

                  Fred,

                  To have a floating and a full frame window, I assign one stage to an existing display and another to inexistant one.
                  Jacques

                  Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                  GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                  MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                  MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                  MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                  • fredvaillant
                    fredvaillant last edited by

                    Of course !!!

                    Thanks Michel & Jacques.

                    MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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                    • fredvaillant
                      fredvaillant last edited by

                      My conclusion of those tests, if I didn't make other mistakes, the result is not the same if I use a Syphon server instead of a Syphon Stage output because the syphon receiver on the other computer will have the resolution max of the preview stage size with the Syphon Stage output and the resolution of the initial video source with the Syphon server.

                      But maybe I missed other tunes.
                      Fred

                      MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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                      • Michel
                        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                        @fredvaillant

                        You can change the preview resolution to what you want.

                        Best Michel

                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                        • fredvaillant
                          fredvaillant last edited by

                          Yes of course, it's just after a question of visibility on the main screen.

                          I sent 720p over TCPSyphon and it was easier for me not to have a preview of this size hidding my patch.
                          Thanks, your solution to use a floating window is the best compared to a control monitor, it's less greedy. I forgot to use that.
                          Fred

                          MBP M1 MAX, 32 GO, MONTEREY

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                          • Michel
                            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                            @fredvaillant

                            If you move the preview window outside of the screen bottom you will only see the header bar of the preview window and it will not cover your patch.

                            Best Michel

                            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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