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    What best video codec to show video with embedded Alpha Channels?

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    • DusX
      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

      Yes dxv works. Although it's as large as hap and runs more like photojpeg outside Resolume. HAP alpha is far superior in Isadora.

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      • Mikhail
        Mikhail last edited by

        Thanks for your Answers
        I've tried to export to  ProRes & HAP. 
        I use Edius to render video-clip with alpha. Unfortunately, i can't found nor Prores, or HAP format to export. 
        On Edius forum i've found this: "The Windows version of QuickTime does not support encoding to ProRes, it only supports decoding."
        I made export window screenshot. I can use only PC-based Applications. What you recommend? 

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        • Mikhail
          Mikhail last edited by

          PS. For QuickTime format I've found DVX 3 & DVX codecs with Alpha support, but seems Isadora doesnt use Alpha channel. Video shows as normal - transparent areas shows as black. :( (I also attach QuickTime videocodec windows screenshot) 3ccf53-dvx.png 74fce5-dvx3.png

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          • jhoepffner
            jhoepffner last edited by

            prores is difficult on windows but it's doable, there is some non very official software doing it.

            Normally you can install HAP codec on windows
            https://github.com/vidvox/hap-qt-codec/releases/

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            • DusX
              DusX Tech Staff last edited by

              You need to install the Hap codecs. Dvx should work. Ensure you have the projector set to 'transparent'

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              • Mikhail
                Mikhail last edited by

                Thanks [DusX](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/149/DusX) .

                I've tried everything both with DVX and DVX 3. It seems that something wrong with export to DVX in Edius. Despite of using Alpha in export settings, even Edius itself can't read exported video with Alpha channel(video plays, but Alpha don't). So, most likely, that problem with Edius export, rather then Isadora. Or something i did wrong.

                Thanks [jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner) for link! I will try to use it.

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                • LPmode
                  LPmode Beta Silver last edited by

                  I'm in windows and always use HAP with isadora. When used in Isadora the codec is GPU bound and in my experience it's the fastest.

                   DXV is only sped up by the GPU when used with Resolume or D3\. I always use DXV in Resolume and that's the fastest for that application.

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                  • mockej
                    mockej last edited by

                    I have had a great experience using HapQ, with smooth interactive playback of 6 full HD streams off one mid-spec Windows 10 machine. I would assume HapAlpha would perform as well.

                    SSD's are mandatory when using HAP, I actually use 3 SSD's in RAID0 to be sure of pushing almost 2Gb/s for the 6 streams. 
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                    • Mikhail
                      Mikhail last edited by

                      Good day again!

                      One quastion for theme of embeded Alpha: Why Isadora dosn't support GrassValley MOV codec to play videos with embedded Alpha?
                      It seems, that GrassValley is one actual video format with embedded Alpha,  which i could use.

                      Nor PNG, nither DVX doesnt output Alpha in my Edit program(Edius). I don't know why, but even Edius itself, doesn't read Alpha from these files. Only GrassValley codec works well.

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                      • vanakaru
                        vanakaru last edited by

                        Try to convert GrassValley coded movie to some other with Quicktime or similar(win?).

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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          HAP alpha is my go to.

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