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    • montana
      montana @Fred last edited by

      @fred Thanks for the quick response. Is there a way to add HAP AVI to Premiere as an export option? Or do I just export and convert? 

      Michael R. Murphy
      MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
      iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
      Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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      • Fred
        Fred last edited by

        with this http://renderheads.com/product...

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        • montana
          montana last edited by

          I installed the plug-in for Windows from their link, but Hap is still not appearing in my Premiere Export listing. Do I need to install it in some Adobe folder I'm not aware of? 

          Michael R. Murphy
          MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
          iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
          Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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          • Fred
            Fred @montana last edited by

            @montanamurph not sure, on my machine (windows 10) when I installed it I see it as a codec option when I select AVI as my output format. Restart your machine maybe?

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            https://github.com/fred-dev
            OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
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            • montana
              montana last edited by

              I have Windows 10 and Premiere 12.0.1 and have re-booted my machine. I see AVI and AVI uncompressed. I must be doing something wrong in the installation? Seems like the installer should know where to place things. On another front, I did a test on my Mac and used the vdmx batch converter (https://vdmx.vidvox.net/blog/f...) on a mpeg4 file outputting to HAP and then shipped over to my windows machine and it seemed to play well. This is a much less elegant solution, but I'm going to have files coming into me that are ProRes, mpeg4 and wmv and I just want to find the simplest way to deal with them and have them come out in a way that will unify them to the best of our possibilities for playback.

              Michael R. Murphy
              MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
              iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
              Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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              • Fred
                Fred @montana last edited by

                @montanamurph It is in the avi section, not uncompressed and then in video codec (in the video output settings on the left) it has a whole list of codecs and hap is in there for me.

                http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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                • montana
                  montana last edited by

                  Okay, I think I have it. The codec settings are more at the bottom for me, but I'm seeing Hap, Hap Q and Hap Alpha. At the format setting above it still reads AVI, so I'm assuming that picking Hap at the bottom and leaving the top the same will give me what you're calling Hap AVI?

                  Michael R. Murphy
                  MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
                  iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
                  Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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                  • Fred
                    Fred last edited by

                    yes, avi is the containerand hap is the codec.

                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                    https://github.com/fred-dev
                    OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                    Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                    • montana
                      montana last edited by

                      Many thanks. One final (I hope) question. My files that are coming to me from mac editors as pro-res, should I convert them on the mac to HAp and then load them in, or will my windows premiere program recognize them and allow me to import and convert them or finally, will windows izzy let the two co-exist?

                      Michael R. Murphy
                      MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
                      iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
                      Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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                      • Fred
                        Fred @montana last edited by

                        @montanamurph you can import the proress files to Isadora, but the movie player will adapt between direct show and quicktime based playback. In my experience the directshow (that is used for AVI playback), is more responsive and uses less resources, but you can compare, it would be great if you let us know. If you want to convert the .mov proress files to .AVI hap, you can do this with adobe premiere or adobe media convertor. 

                        http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                        https://github.com/fred-dev
                        OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                        Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                        • mark
                          mark @montana last edited by

                          @montanamurph said:

                          the show is going to be run on my Windows machine.

                           Keep in mind, within the next few months we'll remove QuickTime from Isadora for Windows completely. So, not too long from now, .mov files won't be an option anyway. Better to move to HAP AVI as @Fred is saying.

                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • montana
                            montana last edited by

                            Thanks! Good to have the heads up. We're going into another production directly after this and we will move on!

                            Michael R. Murphy
                            MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021)/Apple M1 Max/64 GB RAM
                            iMac 2019/ Processor 3.8 GHz 8-Core intel Core i9/ Memory: 64 GB/ Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB
                            Mac Mini Apple M2 Pro with 10‑core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine

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