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    • DusX
      DusX Tech Staff @_grzegorz_ last edited by

      @_grzegorz_

      You really can do much the same thing with Isadora, just by installing the application without registration (in Demo Mode). Demo Mode is a full runtime.
      Of course you can create a control panel for the user, and even allow eternal configuration. ( I load an external text file to allow user based configuration).

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        _grzegorz_ last edited by

        I didn't thought about demo mode to be honest. Very nice idea! Thank you. The only thing is that in demo you can not save i.e video mapping settings, right? 

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          msanii @_grzegorz_ last edited by

          @_grzegorz_

          I've never used Max but I suppose the difference in this particular aspect is that with Isadora one gives the complete project locked or open (with control panel if need be), where as with Max one gives a separate application that doesn't have the 'brains' but functions as intended in Max runtime?

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          • Woland
            Woland Tech Staff @_grzegorz_ last edited by

            @_grzegorz_ said:

            The only thing is that in demo you can not save i.e video mapping settings, right? 

             If you publish the Izzymap Outputs and then use an external file to set the positions you can save your mapping in demo mode (like DusX said)

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              msanii @Woland last edited by

              @woland

              Slightly different question but I'm often having to manually copy the same mapping to 20+ scenes every time we change venue. From what you say I'm deducing there must be a way of not having to manually copy the mapping to every scene.

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                DusX Tech Staff @msanii last edited by

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                The easiest solution to this is to put your Projector actors inside a User Actor.
                Then if you edit the Projection mapping, and close the User Actor (selecting update all).
                All instances of that actor will be updated with your new mapping.
                So, if you use the same User Actor in each scene.. it will update for your entire project.

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                  msanii @DusX last edited by

                  @dusx

                  Thanks for this. Will save us 40 mins every time and less anxiety over someone touching the screens or projector

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                    Woland Tech Staff @msanii last edited by

                    @msanii said:

                    Slightly different question but I'm often having to manually copy the same mapping to 20+ scenes every time we change venue. From what you say I'm deducing there must be a way of not having to manually copy the mapping to every scene.

                    There's also this, which makes it so that you only have one Projector actor per Stage: https://community.troikatronix.com/topic/5495/global-projection-mapping-simple-show-template

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                      msanii @Woland last edited by

                      @woland

                      Thanks a lot for this. The patch is crashing Isadora at start-up but then I'm on Mojave. I'll have to wait for 3

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                        Woland Tech Staff @msanii last edited by

                        @msanii said:

                        I'll have to wait for 3

                         Soon my friend, soon.

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                          Bennnid @Woland last edited by

                          @woland thanks a lot i didn't know you can edit mapping through a text file, do u have any tutorial for exporting and loading? bests

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                            Woland Tech Staff @Bennnid last edited by

                            @bennnid said:

                            do u have any tutorial for exporting and loading?

                            Unfortunately I do not. I don't feel comfortable sharing more than just pointing you in the direction of Data Array and published IzzyMap Inputs. With Isadora the only limitation is that you can't save, so "getting around" the Demo Mode limitation by editing an external file in order to "save" in Demo Mode is a little bit a of a grey area since if one wants to be able to save one should technically buy a license for the show computer. Silly of me to have brought it up in the first place then I suppose...

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                              DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                              I use this feature to allow me to ship self contained 'products', that simply require the demo version as the playback engine.
                              Being able to adjust some settings depending on the venue, or to be able to adjust fine calibration setting during install are the main reasons I have found to incorporate this approach.
                              It can take some time, and planning, but in the end you can create some very flexible systems.
                              This tutorial is a good starting point: https://support.troikatronix.c...

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