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    [ANSWERED] ​Rutt Etra Isadora 3

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    • O
      ObscenityState last edited by Woland

      Does Rutt Etra work with Isadora 3 or is there a plugin similar to it that's available?

      Thanks Nilly

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        DusX Tech Staff @ObscenityState last edited by DusX

        @obscenitystate

        It's in beta and nearly ready for release  .

        Coming soon

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          mark last edited by

          It's ready. 

          https://troikatronix.com/plugin/rutt-etra-for-isadora-3/

          Make sure to donate if you can: The partner of the the late Bill Etra -- creator of the original Rutt-Etra hardware video synthesizer –– is disabled and on fixed income. All donations go to her to help her exist in this difficult situation.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            dbini @mark last edited by

            @mark

            I've installed the new Rutt Etra in the Plugins folder - it's sat there with its Grapher and OpenNI friends, but it isn't showing up in Izzy. Ive deleted prefs and restarted, but it's still shy.

            John Collingswood
            taikabox.com
            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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            • mark
              mark @dbini last edited by mark

              @dbini said:

              I've installed the new Rutt Etra in the Plugins folder - it's sat there with its Grapher and OpenNI friends, but it isn't showing up in Izzy. Ive deleted prefs and restarted, but it's still shy.

              I'm in Catalina at the moment and it worked for me, so I would expect it to work elsewhere. (I made sure it was un-quarantined first.)

              Try throwing away the file at ~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt and restart Isadora. Does that help?

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                dbini @mark last edited by dbini

                @mark

                no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

                Isadora doesn't do that 'scanning for plugins' thing whilst starting up any more... (but Grapher and OpenNI are still available)

                thanks, john

                John Collingswood
                taikabox.com
                2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                • mark
                  mark @dbini last edited by

                  @dbini said:

                  no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

                   I will be able to try it on High Sierra later today. To be clear, you're not downloading the version 2 plugin by accident are you? Or trying to use this plugin with Isadora 2?

                  This is the link to the 64-bit plugin for Isadora 3.

                  https://troikatronix.com/plugi...

                  Is anyone else having trouble?

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by bonemap

                    Hi @mark, @dbini,

                    No trouble ...

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                    • dbini
                      dbini @mark last edited by

                      @mark

                      I've downloaded that file 4 times now to make sure ;) - and trying to run on Izzy3.03b7. The other Plugins in the same folder appear, but Rutt isn't in the menu and doesn't come up when i doubleclick the scene window and type the name.

                      John Collingswood
                      taikabox.com
                      2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                      plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                        DusX Tech Staff @dbini last edited by mark

                        @dbini

                        You could try deleting the 'scanned-plugins' file. That will cause isadora to rescan all plugins. Unfortunately I'm away from the office and cant remember the exact filename or path.

                        [EDIT: I already made this suggestion; the file is at~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt on MacOS]

                        The path starts with '~' and the filename contains plugins, scanned and troikatronix.

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                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          I just testing installing the Plugin on my High Sierra partition. 
                          Dropped it in the folder 'IsadoraPlugins_x64' and started up a few version of Isadora (3.0.2 and the same as you are running) and its available in each.
                          @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.

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                            dbini @DusX last edited by

                            @dusx

                            thanks for looking Ryan. i'm going to fire up a different machine and test that one later...

                            John Collingswood
                            taikabox.com
                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              mark @DusX last edited by mark

                              @dusx said:

                              @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.

                               I honestly cannot think of anything else to suggest. But here's an extra extensive list:

                              1) Quit Isadora
                              2) Erase the file ~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt
                              3) Erase any other com.troikatronix.XXX files you see in this folder
                              4) Erase the Isadora preferences ~/Library/Preferences/ -- basically I would erase them all if possible
                              5) Erase the plugin from the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder
                              6) Start Isadora and choose Help > Open Plugin Folder > TroikaTronix Actor Plugins to make 1000% sure you're opening the right folder
                              7) Unzip the v002 Rutt Etra v1.2 distribution downloaded from here: https://troikatronix.com/plugi...
                              8) Go into v002 Rutt Etra Plugin > Macintosh. There should just be one the one plugin file: v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug inside.
                              9) Move that one file into the folder that opened in step 6
                              10) Quit and Restart Isadora

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                dbini last edited by

                                @mark 

                                I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

                                I made a user actor with it in and copied this over to my High Sierra machine. did a Place User Actor to bring it in. it shows up in the scene, but doesn't work, so the plugin is not installing correctly in the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder.

                                 

                                John Collingswood
                                taikabox.com
                                2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                  mark @dbini last edited by mark

                                  @dbini said:

                                  @mark I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

                                   Wow I really can't fathom this. But your sentance is a little unclear: "on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version." -- did you mean to say "...installed it and it worked the first time"???? Did it work or not work on Yosemite?

                                  We've tried it on multiple versions of MacOS and on multiple machines and it worked fine and no one else has reported trouble.

                                  What if you try this: 

                                  1) Open Terminal window
                                  2) Enter xattr followed by a space
                                  3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
                                  4) Hit return

                                  What does it report? Do you see "com.apple.quarantine", which indicates it's quarantined?

                                  Regadless of what you see, please do this:

                                  1) Open Terminal window
                                  2) Enter sudo xattr -c followed by a space
                                  3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
                                  4) Hit return
                                  5) Enter your administrator password

                                  Now try opening Isadora. Does it load?

                                  The only solution I can imagine is sending you a specially built version that will show dialogs when it attempts to load the plugin and report errors. This will take some time I'm afraid.

                                  Best Wisehs,
                                  Mark

                                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    dbini @mark last edited by

                                    @mark

                                    what i meant in the previous reply was that I booted up a different Mac, dropped the RuttEtra plug into the plugins folder, restarted Isadora and it showed up, no problem.

                                    but my main Mac doesn't like it.

                                    I did the Terminal stuff you suggested. it didn't show up as quarantined. i tried the sudo xattr -c command - Isadora opened as normal but the plugin didn't load. i'm in no hurry to get using the plugin at the moment, but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....

                                    John Collingswood
                                    taikabox.com
                                    2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                    plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                    • mark
                                      mark @dbini last edited by

                                      @dbini said:

                                      but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....

                                       That makes two of us. Thanks for trying. I'm out of ideas at the moment.

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        dbini @mark last edited by

                                        @mark

                                        I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem. 

                                        John Collingswood
                                        taikabox.com
                                        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                        plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                        • mark
                                          mark @dbini last edited by

                                          @dbini said:

                                          I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem.

                                           That's totally wacky. I can't imagine why this worked.

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • dbini
                                            dbini @mark last edited by

                                            @mark

                                            I think that ages ago i tried to put the original 32bit Rutt Etra plugin into the Izzy3 plugin folder to see if it would work. obviously it didn't, but maybe my Mac made a note of that and kept it in a hidden file somewhere? it might be worth renaming the plugin, just in case it catches anyone else out.....

                                            John Collingswood
                                            taikabox.com
                                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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