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    [ANSWERED] NDI transfer problem between 2 mac with Isadora

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    • tease
      tease last edited by

      Please, here are the info

      Mac os 10.13.6 for both Mac.

      Sender: MacBookpro 15'5 2018

      Receiver: hackintosh, like iMac 2017 (RX Vegas 64)

      I use the NDI 4 watcher Beta pluggin

      Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
      Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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      • Juriaan
        Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by

        Isadora version ?

        Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
        Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
        Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @tease last edited by

          @tease said:

          hackintosh

           Just to be up-front about this, we can't promise that we can solve this for you because Isadora is not officially supported on hackintoshes. We'll try though. What version of Isadora are you working with?

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          • tease
            tease @Juriaan last edited by

            @juriaan sorry: isadora 3.0.7

            Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
            Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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            • Woland
              Woland Tech Staff @tease last edited by

              @tease said:

              direct ethernet network

              Are you sure you have the network setup correctly?

              I just tested between a Mac and a PC on the same wireless network and had no issue whatsoever.

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              • tease
                tease @Woland last edited by

                @woland: since the network has a green light on both side on the apple network configuration pannel, 

                with a fix IP and the same Sub-network, and that the mac receive the name of the other one and the fact that its sending a NDI, I think the network could be ok. 

                But I also had problem with the OSC transmit, but I don't know if I can transmit OSC and NDI thrue the same cable, at the same time, or if indeed, I have a network problem...

                I've test a few cable and adaptors.

                What else could be wrongly fix on a direct network if both have a fix IP and the same su-network? and that on the network setting they say they are connected?

                What do you think? 

                best,

                Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
                Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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                • tease
                  tease @Woland last edited by

                  @woland isadora 3.0.7

                  Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
                  Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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                  • Woland
                    Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                    Some tests:

                    1. Over a wired network, with two actual macs, (not the hack), test whether or not you can send OSC with your network setup
                    2. Over a wired network, with two actual macs, (not the hack), test whether or not you can send NDI with your network setup
                    3. Over a wireless network, with two actual macs, (not the hack), test whether or not you can send OSC with your network setup
                    4. Over a wireless network, with two actual macs, (not the hack), test whether or not you can send NDI with your network setup
                    5. Over a wireless network, with the mac and the hack, test whether or not you can send OSC with your network setup
                    6. Over a wireless network, with the mac and the hack, test whether or not you can send NDI with your network setup

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                      DillTheKraut @tease last edited by

                      @tease

                      Is the Network directly connected or with a switch or hub in between? If there is a switch, is it just an unmanaged, dump one or a managed? If it is managed, you might need to set some multi/broadcasting settings for it.


                      Best
                      Dill

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                      • tease
                        tease @Woland last edited by tease

                        @woland: that will be the head of my "to do list" tomorrow morning! thanks!

                        I will also add: 

                        1. Over a wired network, with on macs and on PC  (the hack can boot on window), test whether or not you can send OSC with your network setup
                        2. Over a wired network, with on macs and on PC  (the hack can boot on window)), test whether or not you can send NDI with your network setup

                        Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
                        Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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                        • tease
                          tease @DillTheKraut last edited by

                          @dillthekraut: no switch no hub, just mac to mac! but thanks!

                          Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
                          Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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                          • Woland
                            Woland Tech Staff @tease last edited by

                            @tease said:

                            @dillthekraut: no switch no hub, just mac to mac! but thanks!

                             Do you have a gigabit switch or router that that you can throw into the mix?

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                            • tease
                              tease @Woland last edited by

                              @woland and the others: IT WAS A NETWORK PROBLEM! (not Hackintosh related)

                              I'm a bad network setter, I know it, but I thaught this time I learned my lesson... so I created a sub-network 255.255.255.255... meaning I was closing all gates! 

                              A friend explained why the receiver could anyway see the other mac but I don't get it.

                              after that I did a 255.255.0.0 sub-network and it worked fine.

                              For network alergics like me, I put a print screen (sorry in french)

                              IP Adress1: 168.168.0.2 , IP Adress2: 168.168.0.3

                              After that I was able to have two good NDI feed (both sides) and a OSC transmit.

                              Thanks for your help,

                              Best,

                              Thomas Israël : Mac Studio M1 Max 32Go Ventura & MBP 2016 10.15.7 i7 16Go Intel HD 530 1536Mo - located in Belgium - France - Brasil
                              Digital art - performance - Opera - installation - interactivity - sculpture / 18 years on Isadora / mac, hack & PC - www.thomasisrael.be & https://linktr.ee/thoisr

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