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    Isadora 1.3.0f25

    Troubleshooting and Bug Reports
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    • SWDA
      SWDA last edited by

      The download was also weird for me but got it. This release is a total miracle! I'm not big into prayer but these is kind of incredible.

      Three days ago I was pulling my hair out trying to get 720p files to scrub effectively in both directions. Previous release scrubbed fine forward but would lock up in unpredictable ways in reverse no matter what compression format etc. Works great so far for what I am trying to do-basically using kinect to select and scrub files in different ways. I know I'm not supposed to use this version for performance but 50% of my shows blow up anyways so...probably need to use it next weekend and see what happens. 

      Sheldon B Smith
      Adjunct Professor Mills College at Northeastern University
      Co-artistic director Smith/Wymore Disappearing Acts
      smithwymore.org
      sh.smith@northeastern.edu

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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        Dear All,

        First, thank you for that thought Vanakaru, but if people can't download the software there isn't much to talk about.

        The whole problem originated because the release notes were too long to add to a forum post directly. So I put them on their own page But,if you open the link to the separate page, it opens it in the 'iFrame" within which this forum is embedded. (I was testing withoutnthe forum embedded, which you can do via this link: http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/ -- you need to choose "open in new window" for this link to work!)

        Because the size of the opened page was limited to the iFrame, you couldn't see the bottom of the page. Erghhh.

        Anyway, by editing the HTML and using target="_blank" a new window/tab is opened, and I think that will address the problem.

        I'm going to make separate post about this to alert everyone that this has been handled.

        Best,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • ray
          ray last edited by

          downloaded and installed the new program 3 times and it plays videos for about 1 sec. then freezes. am using a mac mini 20111 lion with 120gb ssd 16 gb ram.

          what am i doing wrong????

          found it! was using threaded movie playback, turned it off now it works. duh!

          http://vimeo.com/raylevy/videos

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            I have been on a much deserved holiday but I am now back home and will be giving the new version a blast this week.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • dbini
              dbini last edited by

              i just spent a couple of hours playing with the new 3D rendering to video and it's great! and the whole thing feels much faster and smoother. nice one Mark.

              John Collingswood
              taikabox.com
              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                @Ray -- oh good one. I need to add that to the release notes and actually remove threaded movie playback as an option. It was a failed idea unfortunately. I'll go edit the links right now.

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • W
                  wassarts last edited by

                  Hi,

                  I played the new version out last night with a patch I've been using for ages for general VJ club stuff, I'm sorry to say it crashed twice (cant remember the last time that happened live), when I booted into my patch I lost the description fonts for the buttons etc (futura Condensed Extra Bold) - it didn't seem to like the font I have been using for years, and I had some strange issues with movies playing for about 3 seconds then stopping, when looking at the movie player actor the play head was still traveling but not content was coming out, and I would have to quit and reboot finder to get it to play.
                  I'm not loosing sleep over it because it was a mess about really and I could mix over to another laptop, just wanted to test it for a good few hours non stop.
                  I'll try and get some more detail to you.
                  I'm really sorry to say this because I'm aware how hard you've been working on this version Mark and I'm sure you have made some great improvements overall.
                  best
                  bob
                  MBP 2.2 Ghz Intel core
                  4 GB memory
                  10.7.4

                  iMac retina
                  3.6GHZ i7
                  32GB 2400 Ram
                  Radeon Pro 560 4GB
                  Izzy version - Latest

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                  • eric
                    eric last edited by

                    I had a similar issue with f25, @wasserts, where the movie player would keep playing the same clip even when others were selected.  I filed a bug report with Mark about it the other day.

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                    • ?
                      Guest last edited by

                      CoreImage fixed, no error messages, after 10 hours playing with some old izzy files (CImovie CIvideo QC), I quit Isadora with stage on plus capture on,  Isadora crashed, MBP 2.5 Ghz 4 GB memory 10.6.8

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                      • A
                        agentsimon last edited by

                        Works like a dream for me

                        Ibook 2.16 GHz 2 GB RAM 10.6.8
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                        • mark
                          mark last edited by

                          For those of you who had crashes, grab the small applet that gathers and compresses your crash reports into a zip file and send them. This will help me see if there is some pattern to the crashes you have experienced.

                          Download -> [get-recent-isadora-crashes.zip](http://forum.troikatronix.com/forum/TroikaTronix_News_C1/Announcements_F1/For_Mac_Users%3A_Auto_Crash_Report_Gathering_%5BUPDATED%5D_P12073/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=1158;guest=21792454&t=search_engine)
                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • W
                            wassarts last edited by

                            recent crashes zip attached.

                            hope this helps
                            b

                            9d7898-crashes-bobw-2012-08-29.zip

                            iMac retina
                            3.6GHZ i7
                            32GB 2400 Ram
                            Radeon Pro 560 4GB
                            Izzy version - Latest

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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              Dear Bob,

                              Hmmm... those crashes are dated 2009 and are with Isadora v1.2.9.22\. Maybe my little app isn't so smart. What version of Mac OS X are you running?
                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • S
                                scodav last edited by

                                I'm having some issues with .0f25. I'm running OS 10.6.8 on a MacBook Pro. The frame rate on a certain scene will vary from 30fps to 6.5fps depending upon what appear to be internal states of Isadora. It's not an issue of available free memory, or competing processes outside of Isadora.  I've attached some screengrabs of three instances, along with activity monitors.  For some reason Isadora isn't using CPU that is available to it at times.  All scenes are affected, but this one is the most affected. ce1f40-30fps-screen.jpg 247d87-17.7fps-screen.jpg 3c8c19-6.5fps-screen.jpg

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                                • mark
                                  mark last edited by

                                  Dear Scodav,

                                  Well, the speed is entirely dependent on how many clips you are playing at the same time, the resolution of those clips, and their codec and the effects. Are you playing more movies when the frame rate is slow? If you tell us the number of clips, resolution and codec we can offer more guidance.
                                  I can see you are using a blur -- that's very "expensive" CPU wise. (You should be sure to use the FreeFrame GaussianBlur [no space between Gaussian and Blur] instead of Isadora's built in "Gaussian Blur" [with space].) Another actor to watch out for in terms of this is the "HSL Adjust" actor.
                                  The Cycles value in the Status window tells you how many times per second Isadora can execute all of the actors in the active scene. 20 is very low -- that's why you're getting 6.5 frames per second.
                                  Best Wishes,
                                  Mark

                                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                  • W
                                    wassarts last edited by

                                    Oh! Good to know I was still crashing in 2009 eh ;)

                                    10.7.4, 2.2 ghz, Intel core
                                    I'll run that app again and check the dates
                                    b

                                    c1485e-crashes-bobw-2012-09-01.zip

                                    iMac retina
                                    3.6GHZ i7
                                    32GB 2400 Ram
                                    Radeon Pro 560 4GB
                                    Izzy version - Latest

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                                    • S
                                      scodav last edited by

                                      Hi Mark!  What I'm saying is that the fps changes radically upon opening the program on various days, with the exact same clips/codecs/effects/preferences. Could it be moon-phase-sensitive?

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                                      • vanakaru
                                        vanakaru last edited by

                                        So far so good.

                                        I have been redesigning a show to run solely with Isadora. Everything I wanted to do in just one app is working great.
                                        I have 2 Wii controllers sending MIDI via OSCulator. In Isadora I play short audio samples and video clips triggered by MIDI notes. There is a audio track playing under the 15min show. While it is not too complex it runs better than ever. Framerate is great and no stutters so far.
                                        UNLESS I try to play movie with alpha channel (PNG+). Frame rate drops to 6-17 and Cycles drops from 144 to 13 VPO goes from 8 to 70\. With some PNG's everything stalls until I delete file from media bin.
                                        I am preloading video and using CI actors. 
                                        BUT NO CRASH!

                                        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                        • mark
                                          mark last edited by

                                          Dear Vanakaru,

                                          RE: PNG+ -- I've never tested with this format. But I suspect it's bound to be slow because of the compression. What't the resolution of these clips? Is PNG+ something you can export with QuickTime Player? I'll give it a try if you like.
                                          Best WIshes,
                                          Mark

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by

                                            Dear Scodav,

                                            Well, hopefully the moon phases have nothing to do with it. But perhaps it has something to do with the change that caused movies to preload in the background when you change the value of the 'movie' input of a Movie Player actor. I had some situations in testing in which a movie could get preloaded but then never actually get used. It would then be "lingering" in the background, and this could lead to CPU usage. I really thought I'd nailed all of these situations using one of my test patches, the aptly named "F***ed Up Crash Maker.izz" which does all kinds of nasty stuff, like having a Wave Generator connected to the 'movie' input of a Movie Player. But maybe you've found a way to make it happen.
                                            I guess the next step would be to send me your patch so I can have a look -- you can send that to me privately at mark [[attta]] troikatronix [[dotta]] com. But also, it would be good if you posted the resolutions and codecs of your movies (if they are at all consistent among your many clips) so that I could at least have a sense of what's going on.
                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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