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    Guru Session #13: Body Tracking with Depth Cameras (Fri May 8th, 6pm CEST/5pm GMT/12pm EDT/9am PDT)

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    • DanielPineiro
      DanielPineiro @mark last edited by

      @mark

      Hi, 

      This is the last report that I get just five minutes ago. Everything was working (with power supply, thanks!!) for near two hours. 

      I hope it can help!

      Regards

      MacBook Pro Retina (2013) 2,4 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Intel Iris 1536 MB.
      Big Sur 11.7.6
      Located in Pontevedra, Spain.

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      • DanielPineiro
        DanielPineiro @DanielPineiro last edited by

        @danielpineiro

        Not sure if the file is upload or not (It was not), here it is

        report

        MacBook Pro Retina (2013) 2,4 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Intel Iris 1536 MB.
        Big Sur 11.7.6
        Located in Pontevedra, Spain.

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        • jfg
          jfg last edited by jfg

          Asus Xtion Pro liveand Mac Pro 2012

          has somebody an Idea where it is coming from:

          I use OpenNi on my Macbook without a problem.

          on my macPro (2012) I cannot get the OpenNI tracker to see a body. I get the depth picture from the Asus Xtion Live Pro but no body are tracked.

          Both Computer run Mojave.

          I have also tried on the same computer with an simple installation of High Sierra ( no extensions or programs running by start): same result.

          Could it be a hardware problem (USB 2.0 instead of 3.0 or…)?

          I have also installed Delicode Ni-Mate on both. It  runs on the MacBook but crash by start on the MacPro.

          Perhaps the other difference could be (in relation with USB 3.0) that I am sure I made the Hotfix for USB 3.0 on the Macbook but I don't know if I made it too on the MacPro. Unfortunately my Software Backup Harddrive died and the website with this hotfix doesn't exist any more. https://www.reconstructme.net/...  But at least I think it was a firmware for the xtion and is independent from the computer.

          one more thing: What I described was with a connexion over USB 2.0.  I have also in the macPro a Card for USB 3.0 but if I connect the Xtion over USB 3.0 I only get device init error in the Openni actor

          Help !!

          thanks 

          Jean-François

           

          • Izzy 3.2.6
          - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
          - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
          Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
          - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

          • A range of deployable older Macs
            Located in Bremen, Germany
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          • mark
            mark @DanielPineiro last edited by

            @danielpineiro

            Very good to hear. Let me know what else you find out.

            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • bonemap
              bonemap Izzy Guru @jfg last edited by bonemap

              @jfg said:

              on my macPro (2012) I cannot get the OpenNI tracker to see a body

               Hi,

              When testing the Open Ni plugin a few months ago I was unable to initialise any of my Orbbec sensors directly attached to a Mac Pro (2013). They initialised immediately on the Mac Pro using a thunderbolt hub with USB3 ports. I also tried a USB 2 hub but the Orbbecs' didn't initialise through that either. My Kinect sensors worked directly on the MacPro it was my Orbbec Astra’s that required the hub workaround.

              I don’t know if that will help your situation.

              Kind Regards

              Russell

              http://bonemap.com | Australia
              Izzy STD 4.2 | USB 3.6 | + Beta
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              • Juriaan
                Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by Juriaan

                Hi there, 

                Windows 10 (Isadora 3.0.7, Normal version)

                When I try the sensor (Kinect 2 - Xbox One) I get an image and it sees my skeleton. When it does the garbage collection, so after 10 seconds or so when I'm out of the picture again you see the load going up and then the load goes down again but it crashes Isadora.(It also doesnt go down to the load before the load went up) I sent the crash report to your servers :) (Juriaan as License name)

                Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
                Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
                Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                • nandada
                  nandada @mark last edited by

                  @mark THANKS MARK!!

                  Fernanda | Isadora 3.0.7 USB Key | Isadora 2.6.1 USB Key
                  MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) | 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 | 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 | NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB | Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

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                    Demetri79 last edited by Demetri79

                    @mark thanks for the help so far.

                    I dont have any homebrew installed. it came back with "-bash: brew: command not found"

                    i tried the process you outlined over and over and still cant get it working again regardless of which version of the OpenNItracker i use. I tried every usb port on my machine as some are 2.0 and some 3.0 on a pcie card. Sometimes when the OpenNI is placed in the blank scene it immediately reads: "resolving" in status and does nothing.. sometimes it flashes "init device" for a while and then stops flashing that and stays on init device.. sometimes the kinect itself stops flashing green once i place the OpenNI actor.. ive tired everything.. deleted prefs again, disconnected all non essential devices from computer.. deactivated all my qartz plugins, corea audio plugins not loaded, deleted my global user actor folder (since it had a full setup saved with tracker, skeleton, etc).. makes no sense as it worked all week.. the only software I installed since it was working is Newtek NDI tools.

                    the kinect itself is not the issue ..i tested the kinect on my macbook pro 2013 also running the same Mac os 10.13.6 and isadora 3.0.7.. and IT WORKS.. just can't get it working again on my tower. the laptop is too old and slow to use for my insatiable needs:(

                    #1-2024 Corsair Vengence a8100 Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Nvidia RTX 4090, Windows 11, Isadora 3.2.6
                    #2 MAC PRO 2012 5,1 12 CORE XEON 3.46GHZ, 64G RAM
                    RADEON SAPPHIRE VEGA 64, pixelas mod
                    PCIE USB3, PCIE ESATA, PCIE NVME M2 SSD
                    MAC OS 10.14.6 (17G10021), ISADORA 3.2.6, ISADORA 2.6.2

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                    • jfg
                      jfg @Demetri79 last edited by

                      @demetri79 said:

                      on my tower

                       can you tell us which tower? it is the same as mine: Mac Pro 2012 (5.1) USB 2.0 native+ Inatek PCIe USB 3.0 Card.

                      best

                      Jean-François

                      • Izzy 3.2.6
                      - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                      - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                      Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                      - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                      • A range of deployable older Macs
                        Located in Bremen, Germany
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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear All,

                        v0.9.6 of OpenNI Tracker is available in the "alpha builds" forum thread.

                        The record feature is now enabled. It seems to work well on both Mac and Windows now. I'm sure this feature will be a boon for development, since you can now record and play the depth streams and have the tracking work as if there were a person in front of the camera. Let me know how it works for you.

                        @jfg This version may solve your problem with the Asus Xtion. Try it and let me know.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • DanielPineiro
                          DanielPineiro last edited by

                          Hi!

                          The record feature works fine for me! That´s great. Thanks Mark!!!!

                          MacBook Pro Retina (2013) 2,4 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Intel Iris 1536 MB.
                          Big Sur 11.7.6
                          Located in Pontevedra, Spain.

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                          • mark_m
                            mark_m @mark last edited by mark_m

                            @mark said:

                            v0.9.6 of OpenNI Tracker is available in the "alpha builds" forum thread.

                            The Windows link doesn't seem to be working, but it's available at:
                            https://troikatronix.com/files...

                            Cheers

                            Mark

                            Intel NUC8i7HVK Hades Canyon VR Gaming NUC, i7-8809G w/ Radeon RX Vega M GH 4GB Graphics, 32GB RAM, 2 x NVMe SSD
                            Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED XD. Intel Core i7-11800H, NVidia RTX3070, 32GB RAM 2 x NVMe SSD
                            PC Specialist Desktop: i9-14900K, RTX4070Ti, 64GB RAM, Win11Pro
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                            • jfg
                              jfg @mark last edited by jfg

                              @mark

                              Dear Mark,

                              I have to apologise because I gave you yesterday wrong information. I tested yet all different configurations new and the result is:

                              - 0.9.2 works fine on both computers (I have to use the masquerade file)

                              -0.9.5 and 6 won't recognise bodies on both (I haven't forget to put the masquerade file at the right place)

                              on the Macbook with USB 3.0 the Xtion is recognised.

                              on the MacPro (2012) the Xtion is only recognised over USB 2.0. If I connect it on the USB 3.0 Inateck PCIe card i get only device init error

                              The color video output give me only a frozen picture on the macBook (usb 3.0).(the first picture after switching). Work ± on MacPro (Jitter)

                              thank you for your help

                              best

                              Jean-François

                              • Izzy 3.2.6
                              - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                              - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                              Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                              - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                              • A range of deployable older Macs
                                Located in Bremen, Germany
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                              • JJHP3
                                JJHP3 last edited by

                                Just sayin' the new openNI plugs are TERRIFIC! They work perfectly with my aging MBP laptop and kinect 1414. I used the kinect for a performance/installation back in 2012 and it was a pain... it then went on the shelf. I used DeliCode program in get the info into Isadora and then it was a bit of a crap shoot whether it would work or not. Congratulations to Mark and the team on getting this wonderful re-addition to Isadora up and running. The tutorial and the guru session were both most useful. Bravo ~

                                John

                                MBP'21- M1-Max; Sonoma 14.7; Isadora: 4.0.7 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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                                  DillTheKraut @mark last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  Hello and congratulations to this amazing peace of plugin. Same as @JJHP3, for the Guru Session I freed my 1414 from the years old dust and it ran on my MacBook in no Time!
                                  I'm especially impressed by how fast the body recognition reacts and the accuracy of the skeleton tracking.

                                  But I do have an issue on a windows pc. With the OpenNI plugin in the plugin folder, I get the following error:


                                  This is true with Tracker plugin ver. 0.9.6 and 0.9.2

                                  Isadora 3.0.7
                                  Windows 10 Pro 1909 1836.592
                                  AMD A-5000
                                  4GB RAM

                                  Best
                                  Dill

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                                    DillTheKraut @DillTheKraut last edited by DillTheKraut

                                    @dillthekraut

                                    I could solve the starting error by installing the OpenNI drivers from structur.io. https://structure.io/openni

                                    But I do have a general issue now, as the pc isn't recognizing the kinect right. In the windows device manager list, only the XBOX NUI Monitor is appearing under other devices, without a proper driver associated.
                                    At a Parallel Windows VM, it shows additional XBOX NUI Audio and XBOX NUI Camera. Which is missing on the pc. The actor in here keeps saying 'resolving uri'.
                                    Does anyone have an idea?


                                    Dill

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                                    • Juriaan
                                      Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by

                                      Hi there, 

                                      A few things that I noticed

                                      1) Kinect v2 (Xbox One) is still crashing with the current version that was provided to us today. Sadly Isadora crashes so badly that I can't send the Crash logs to you since it doesnt create one with the normal workflow (So that you can send it from the Error prompt that pop-ups)

                                      2) Load becomes massive like 70.6% on a Windows 10, MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider laptop (2000 euro gaming laptop with a Nvidia dedicated graphic card with just the Kinect v2 / OpenNi Tracker and a Projector attached to it's depth image in full screen mode)

                                      3) When I say against Isadora that I only wish to receive the color map it still sends out the depth video signal as well.

                                      4) I can't get the recording to work properly. What I did was I set the File input to tracking.oni and told the plugin to Record, do a silly dance, and press 'stop'. Then I try to play it back by pressing 'Play' and it doesn't show anything. It stops the active sensor flow and showcases a blank screen. When I'm looking in my file explorer or it even made a file called tracking.oni it doesn't show up.

                                      Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
                                      Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
                                      Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                                        DillTheKraut @DillTheKraut last edited by

                                        @dillthekraut

                                        Could solve it by removing the OpenNI drivers and installing the official Microsoft Kinect SDK.
                                        Works perfectly now on the pc.

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                                          Demetri79 last edited by Demetri79

                                          @jfg 

                                          Hardware: Mac Pro 2012 5,1 PCIe USB 3
                                          MacOS Version: High Sierra 10.13.6
                                          Depth Camera: Kinect v1 (Model 1414)
                                          Isadora Version: 3.0.7

                                          @mark 

                                          I dont have any homebrew installed. it came back with "-bash: brew: command not found"

                                          So after much more testing I have more insight to my problem at least:

                                          I tested all 3 versions now (0.9.2,0.9.5,0.9.6) , over 100 times shutting down my computer and following the suggested process. I think the problem for me is something related to the USB ports.. USB communication or USB power. I have tried all 9 (5 usb3 via pcie and 5 USB2 via 3 rear and 2 front). The USB3 ports on my PCIe card had better results working to provide power most of the time. i.e. sometimes the blinking green light on the kinect would stop blinking after a few blinks when connected to a USB2 port. This did happen a couple times on the USB3 ports as well though. 

                                           This led me to believe maybe an SMC reset might fix the problem which seems to be either USB communication or USB power. BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANY OTHER USB DEVICE EVEN THOSE DRAWING POWER.. THEY ALL WORK PERFECTLY??

                                          I performed an SMC reset (remove power cable from mac for 15 sec) and booted up and the Kinect was finally recognized for the first time since it stopped working thursday. But soon as I got the skeleton decoder and projector connected the skeleton data froze and the depth image froze. Deleting the Open NI tracker and placing in a new one did not work. The only way to get the kinect to be recognized by the Open NI is doing the whole process over again.. shutdown - SMC reset - boot up - place Open NI- kinect recognized - then freezes again within 5 sec.. even this process does not get the kinect recognized every time.. only about a about 25% of the time. I cannot get the kinect working properly like it was earlier this week.. it was working perfectly every time i connected it and never crashed once even with 4hour+ sessions.

                                           All 3 versions of openNI have been tested over 30 times each .. I only got the kinect even recognized about 4 times total.. and the times it did get recognized it froze within seconds.. but the green light did not stop blinking when the data and image froze. I'm so bumed and confused

                                          #1-2024 Corsair Vengence a8100 Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Nvidia RTX 4090, Windows 11, Isadora 3.2.6
                                          #2 MAC PRO 2012 5,1 12 CORE XEON 3.46GHZ, 64G RAM
                                          RADEON SAPPHIRE VEGA 64, pixelas mod
                                          PCIE USB3, PCIE ESATA, PCIE NVME M2 SSD
                                          MAC OS 10.14.6 (17G10021), ISADORA 3.2.6, ISADORA 2.6.2

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                                          • mark
                                            mark @mark_m last edited by

                                            @mark_m said:

                                            The Windows link doesn't seem to be working.Ooops. Sorry about that. I fixed the link in the alpha builds thread. Thanks for the heads up.

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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