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    • vanakaru
      vanakaru last edited by

      You do not have too many options on mac.

      PNG movie with Millions of Colors+(alpha) works the best for me. File is not too large and playback is not too hungry.
      Animation with alpha is out of the question. I can run 1sec clip maybe without dropped frames. Animation codec was never made for real time playback.
      ProRes4444(with alpha channel) is very good quality if you have fast mac. But the file is pretty big and playing large files is problematic always.
      There is DXV(Resolume codec) that supports alpha as well but only with Resolume and gets excellent frame rate there. Useless outside Resolume.

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      • MatthewH
        MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

        Thanks, Vanakaru. PNG movie it is.

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        • raha
          raha last edited by

          for animation, i think it works if you render as Photo-JPEG and then use an alpha channel in Isadora.....

          ....right? 

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          • mark
            mark last edited by

            Dear Raha,

            The photo-jpeg codec has no "built-in" alpha channel -- in other words, the alpha cannot be encoded into the movie as it can with the PNG+ and Animation codecs. You can however create add alpha information to a video stream coming from a Photo JPEG movie by using the "Add Alpha Channel" actor. But this usually only helpful if you intend to add a fixed mask. If you want to have your image use a "traveling mask" (i.e., where the mask is moving in sync with the main image) then you need to use the codecs described by vanakaru.
            Best Wishes,
            Mark

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            • raha
              raha last edited by

              Hi Mark

              i haven't gotten into traveling masks....so that method works for me...
              regarding Vanakuru's comment "Animation with alpha is out of the question" -- is this true? there's no codec that allows for animation to retain transparency? 

              iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, OS X 10.7.4, Isadora Core 1.3.25

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              • Michel
                Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                I think vanakaru meant is, its out of question because of its heavy cpu load. Animation does support alpha channel.

                Best,
                Michel

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                • CitizenJoe
                  CitizenJoe last edited by

                  Does anyone know if there's a "best" option for Windows?

                  Cheers,

                  Hugh

                  Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
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                  • DusX
                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                    I would suggest testing the DXV codec on Windows.. It seems that the free version should support alpha.
                    http://resolume.com/software/dxv.php

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      @Dusx as much I know the alpha is supported ONLY through Resolume the same as better performance.

                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                      • DusX
                        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                        OK< just did a quicktest and I have a DXV quicktime running in Izzy with alpha.
                        Just select 'preserve transparency' in the quicktime codec settings during export.
                        I have a test file that is 10 seconds 30fps 640x480 @ 17.6 mb
                        Seems to run smooth for me, once I set izzies framerate to match the video.

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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          PS: note Izzy can't be YUV mode

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                          • vanakaru
                            vanakaru last edited by

                            @Dusx Great.

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                            • vanakaru
                              vanakaru last edited by

                              I tried DXV again(after some years+downloaded the latest codec) and indeed it works very well. I have seen reports of better performance that with PNG+. Even the file is smaller that PNG+.

                              When exporting from AE you need to choose RGB+Alpha and then Millions of Color+ along in codec settings to preserve alpha. 

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                              • DusX
                                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                Glad its working for you.. seems like the best alpha option right now.

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