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    [ANSWERED] Multiple remote Users+Broadcasting

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    • RIL
      RIL last edited by Woland

      HI all ! 

      Perhaps this has already been discussed ... but I will consult you again. I have 4 Isadora remote patches (stage outputs) that must be mixed and transmitted. What would be the best approach to achieve it?
      thanks a lot
      Maxi

      Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
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      • liminal_andy
        liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

        @ril What kind of latency are you dealing with? Can you bump them out to SRT, or would that be too slow?

        Andy Carluccio
        Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
        www.liminalet.com

        [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
        [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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        • RIL
          RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

          Hi @liminal_andy ! not sure about latency...Can you explain a little more about SRT ? What is it about ?

          Thanks a lot

          Best,

          Maxi

          Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
          page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
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          • liminal_andy
            liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

            @ril SRT stands for Secure Reliable Transport and is a live data transmission protocol used often for moving video data over WAN without a loss of visual fidelity. It's created by Haivision and is supported in apps like OBS. 

            If you can risk WebRTC, you could have your stages go into OBS Ninja, then export them from your local OBS with the NDI filter and bring them into Isadora. 

            Andy Carluccio
            Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
            www.liminalet.com

            [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
            [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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            • RIL
              RIL @liminal_andy last edited by RIL

              @liminal_andy I see... what I wont need is to bring them into Isadora (did you mean back?) All the rest, yes

              Best,

              Maxi

              Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
              page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
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              • liminal_andy
                liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

                @ril I may be misunderstanding your use case. What do you need to do to mix the stages from the 4 remote Isadoras?

                Andy Carluccio
                Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                www.liminalet.com

                [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                • RIL
                  RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                  @liminal_andy Im not sure what I have to do either jaja

                  The first situation would be: How to transmit 4 different remote isadora´s stages 

                  Best,

                  Maxi 

                  Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                  page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
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                  • liminal_andy
                    liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

                    @ril May I ask where they need to be transmitted? To an audience? As separate videos in Zoom? to a website? projector? etc.

                    Andy Carluccio
                    Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                    www.liminalet.com

                    [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                    [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                    • RIL
                      RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                      @liminal_andy to an audience ( I think more like a Youtube channel or similar)

                      Best,

                      Maxi

                      Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                      page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
                      MacBook Pro 2015 High Sierra. Isadora 3.2
                      MacBook Pro M3 Pro Sonoma. Isadora 4.1

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                      • liminal_andy
                        liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

                        @ril ok so in order to do that, the 4 video feeds need to be composited into one for encoding into RTMP to send to YouTube. So you need to do a transmission to a central location that then combines the videos for streaming to YouTube, unless you want to do 4 YouTube live streams?

                        Andy Carluccio
                        Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                        www.liminalet.com

                        [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                        [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                        • RIL
                          RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                          @liminal_andy I see...Maybe not composite the videos but sequenced one after the other...its more like a "show off" from each students to the audience.

                          RTMP ??

                            

                          Best,

                          Maxi

                          Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                          page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
                          MacBook Pro 2015 High Sierra. Isadora 3.2
                          MacBook Pro M3 Pro Sonoma. Isadora 4.1

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                          • RIL
                            RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                            @liminal_andy looking more closely at the WebRTC website I see that this implies a certain level of knowledge that exceeds my students and me too. Maybe we should simplify processes and redesign virtuality issues.

                            Thank you very much Andy !!

                            Best,

                            Maxi

                            Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                            page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
                            MacBook Pro 2015 High Sierra. Isadora 3.2
                            MacBook Pro M3 Pro Sonoma. Isadora 4.1

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                            • liminal_andy
                              liminal_andy @RIL last edited by

                              @ril Read up on OBS Ninja, it's fairly straightforward.

                              Andy Carluccio
                              Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                              www.liminalet.com

                              [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                              [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                              • RIL
                                RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                                @liminal_andy so the "path" should be:

                                Performer1-4: Isadora´s stage to OBS Ninja (vía syphon or NDI ?). Then colect that into OBS ?

                                Best,

                                Maxi

                                Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                                page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
                                MacBook Pro 2015 High Sierra. Isadora 3.2
                                MacBook Pro M3 Pro Sonoma. Isadora 4.1

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                                • liminal_andy
                                  liminal_andy @RIL last edited by liminal_andy

                                  @ril Yes, this is a possible path, using WebRTC (which is what OBS Ninja is under the hood). If the quality / reliability is not what you want, there are more robust solutions that may involve SRT, just mind the latency. And there may be even more elegant options in the future :)

                                  Andy Carluccio
                                  Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                                  www.liminalet.com

                                  [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                                  [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                                  • RIL
                                    RIL @liminal_andy last edited by

                                    @liminal_andy Thanks a lot !

                                    Best,

                                    Maxi

                                    Red Isadora Latina | redisadoralatina.blogspot.com | redisadoralatina@gmail.com
                                    page facebook.com/Red-Isadora-Latina-1319037108171197/ | Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/315960249155308/
                                    MacBook Pro 2015 High Sierra. Isadora 3.2
                                    MacBook Pro M3 Pro Sonoma. Isadora 4.1

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