[ANSWERED/TICKET] Big Sur + HID

timkelly

Hiya,

Has anyone else found that Big Sur completely breaks HID compatibility? I have a USB dance mat and a wired XBOX 360 controller, but neither are recognised at all with auto detect. (The dance mat definitely was working under Catalina).

I have a rudimentary workaround for the dance mat using 'Enjoyable' to map it to key presses, but that won't recognise the xbox controller at all.

Weirdly, both are still recognised in Gamepad Tester in Google Chrome.

I've tried across multiple machines on MacOS 11.2 & 11.3, with no dice. A cursory google would indicate that many people are having trouble with USB controllers in Big Sur with Steam etc...

bonemap

@timkelly

Hi,

There has been a bit of discussion about HID devices, but I have only investigated a XBox wireless controller, Nintendo Wiimote and Wacom Tablet. From what I understand, the wireless XBox controller can be connected to Mac OS Big Sur, but does not get recognised by HID device input in Isadora 3.8. I have invested in OSCulator to get some HID devices up in Isadora, but OSCulator does not recognise the XBox wireless controller. So at the present time I don't know of a direct or indirect connection for XBox wired or wireless controller in Isadora.

Best Wishes

Russell

timkelly

@bonemap ah that's annoying!

Is it looking like this might not actually be fixable in a future release?

mark

@timkelly said:

Is it looking like this might not actually be fixable in a future release?

Hi Tim, Mark Coniglio creator of Isadora here. I am surprised that this is not working for you. We tested with our HID devices and it worked for us. To be sure, I just went and tested again using the only controller I have on hand at the moment, a Gamepad Wireless for PS3/PC by CSL Computer (see https://www.universal.at/p/csl...) and everything works as expected. (To be clear, this wireless device has a USB dongle -- so it appears as "wired" in the sense that the data appears via the USB dongle plugged in to the computer, not via bluetooth.)

Can you provide a links to the specific Xbox controller and the "dance mat" you are talking about? I don't know about the dance may, but I'm sure I can order the Xbox controller and try it.

Best Wishes,
Mark

jedlag

Hi all I have the same Problem on windows10 both my controllers Xbox wireless controller and my Gmaecontoller don´t be auto detect anymore...

both working before ( on the x-box only the buttons not the sticks)

Best Wishes

Jedlag

mark

@jedlag said:

Hi all I have the same Problem on windows10 both my controllers Xbox wireless controller and my Gmaecontoller don´t be auto detect anymore...

I am very sorry to say you are right. HID Input is not working properly in the 3.0.8f12 release. We will have to prepare a hot fix for this. I am sorry that we missed this and for any inconvenience it has caused.

Best Wishes,
Mark

timkelly

@mark

No worries at all @mark - it's only the dance mat I need for this current show, and I have a workaround for that at the moment.

Hopefully it's a relatively easy fix for you!

Thanks for everything you do :)

Best,

Tim

If it's still useful to you:

I *think* this is the Xbox controller I have (I didn't purchase it, so cannot be sure but it looks the same). https://www.onbuy.com/gb/black...

It shows up in Gamepad Tester as "Xbox 360 Controller (STANDARD GAMEPAD Vendor: 045e Product: 028e"

The dance mat is this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB...

It shows up in gamepad tester as "USB Gamepad (Vendor: 0079 Product: 0011)"

(I only just came into possession of the xbox controller, so never tested it on a previous release, but the dance mat was definitely working under 3.0.7 / Catalina)

jedlag

@mark we love U

timkelly

@mark Hi Mark! Do you know when we might possibly get a fix for this? I stumbled across an installer for 3.0.8f09 and can confirm HID is working properly in that (although the Xbox controller still isn't happy - but I imagine that's its own issue), so it is just 3.0.8f12 that's affected.

Best

Tim

mark

@timkelly said:

Hi Mark! Do you know when we might possibly get a fix for this? I stumbled across an installer for 3.0.8f09 and can confirm HID is working properly in that (although the Xbox controller still isn't happy - but I imagine that's its own issue), so it is just 3.0.8f12 that's affected.

Open a ticket and ask to get access to the current beta. Let's see if that solves the problem.

Best Wishes,
Mark

timkelly

@mark just done, thanks!

johnsmith

thank you for the help to solve such problems.