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    [ANSWERED] Alternative to Ni-Mate?

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    • Juriaan
      Juriaan Tech Staff @jfg last edited by Juriaan

      @jfg

      TensorFlow is a really great way to extend Isadora, we should write a KB article describing how to do that properly. Personally I'm more a a fan of the TensorFlow model that can be found here:

      https://github.com/tensorflow/...

      The package has 3 different kind of flavors;

      MoveNet

      17 keypoints, up to 50 FPS on modern machines.

      BlazePose

      MediaPipe BlazePose can detect 33 keypoints, in addition to the 17 COCO keypoints,
      it provides additional keypoints for face, hands and feet.

      PoseNet

      PoseNet can detect multiple poses, each pose contains 17 keypoints.

      Let me see or I can spend some time tinkering with the package and publish some documentation about this on the forum. OSC should also be do-able!

      Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
      Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
      Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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      • jfg
        jfg @Juriaan last edited by

        @juriaan said:

        Let me see or I can spend some time tinkering with the package and publish some documentation about this on the forum. OSC should also be do-able!

         It would be wonderful. Thanks a lot in advance

        best

        Jean-François

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          jandraka @jfg last edited by

          @jfg

          Hi,

          Based on PoseNet is this project: PoseOSC

          Best

          MBP M2 Max 32 GB. MacOS 13.7.3 Isadora 3.2.6 - 4.0.7

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff @jandraka last edited by

            Take a look at our latest tutorial: https://support.troikatronix.c...

            Where you can train a Tensorflow model, and interface it in Isadora via OSC.

            I found a Pose model (Keras format) at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/llpx... from: https://github.com/michalfaber...
            which I have not yet tested, but it should be possible to use.

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            • jfg
              jfg @DusX last edited by

              @dusx

              Thanks for your tipps but it doesn't help me because the explanation are only for Windows. If I download NDI-Classify for mac from the link in this tutorial I get an exec file and nothing else. I don't know what I have to do with this file.

              At least my Idea with this topic was to ask if there is a possibility to get poseNet as an actor inside Isadora.

              Thanks

              best

              Jean-François

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              • liminal_andy
                liminal_andy @jfg last edited by

                @jfg To run the program on macOS, right click on the Exec and hit Open, then, when prompted, again hit Open.

                Andy Carluccio
                Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                www.liminalet.com

                [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                • jfg
                  jfg @liminal_andy last edited by

                  @liminal_andy  When I open the program with right click, a terminal window opens and after some time the following appears but I can't find anything where I can click again  to open.

                  terminal.rtf.zip

                  best

                  Jean-François 

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                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                  Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                  - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                  • A range of deployable older Macs
                    Located in Bremen, Germany
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                  • liminal_andy
                    liminal_andy @jfg last edited by

                    @jfg and you are running this on the Mojave computer? Do you have access to a machine with Big Sur or later? Some of these machine learning frameworks are bleeding edge and may not exist in older macOS versions.

                    Andy Carluccio
                    Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                    www.liminalet.com

                    [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                    [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                    • jfg
                      jfg @liminal_andy last edited by

                      @liminal_andy

                      unfortunately not. I have only Mojave or earlier on my computers.

                       I will try to get a newer machine.

                      Thanks for your help.

                      best 

                      Jean-François 

                      • Izzy 3.2.6
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                      - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                      Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                      - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                      • A range of deployable older Macs
                        Located in Bremen, Germany
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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by Woland

                        @jfg @DusX @Woland @liminal_andy

                        So, I wanted to try the PoseOSC to see what it could do. This required manually configuring the camera because I have several camera drivers installed and it was picking the wrong one. Here's how to fix that on macOS:

                        1. Choose "About this Mac" and click "System Report"
                        2. Go to the sections labeled "Cameras". Find your camera and look for the item labeled "Unique ID". On my computer, for the internal camera, it was something like 0x8033000455aca514. 
                        3. Right click the PoseOSC app and go into Contents > Resources > app. There you will find the file settings.json
                        4. At the bottom you'll find the "cameraConfig" item. You will want to change it as shown in the code snippet below. You need to replace device_id_found_in_system_report with the ID you found in step 2 above.
                        5. Reboot PoseOSC and you should now get the camera you want.

                        CODE SNIPPET

                          "cameraConfig":{
                            "deviceId":"device_id_found_in_system_report",
                            "width": 640,
                            "height":480
                          }
                        

                        That said, my quick trial showed that the response was quite jittery. But also I was not in an optimum environment. If others give this a try, I'd be curious to hear how it worked for you.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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