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    Isadora Full Screen/Kiosk Mode - Applescript for OS X

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    • K
      kithaigh last edited by

      Thanks Mark, the script ran without error once I put the full path in. However, it doesn't seem to have changed anything - is there something else I need to do? Sorry to be dim!

      In the meantime I did find a different route for hiding the menu bar - adding a couple of lines to the info.plist file as described in [this article](http://www.macworld.com/article/1055321/hidemenubar.html) 
      This does have the advantage that the menu reappears when you move the cursor up there with a mouse, but will always be inaccessible on a touch screen. The downside is that it's still possible to minimise or close the window accidentally by touching the top left corner. 
      Best wishes,
      Kit
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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        When you say " it doesn't seem to have changed anything" do you mean the window doesn't fill the screen? Or?

        And what version of Mac OS are you using?
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        • K
          kithaigh last edited by

          Sorry, yes I mean it looks exactly as it did before running the script - the menu bar is still visible, as is the frame around the Isadora window. I'm using 10.8.4 and a Lilliput USB touch screen monitor as the main screen showing the control panel, with 1 stage on an HDMI projector. The USB monitor has been a bit of a pain to be honest, but everything seems stable as it is now, so I'm reluctant to update anything…

          Kit
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            niknaim last edited by

            Fullscreen-Mode is exactly what I am looking for. Is this also possible for Windows?

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            • Bodo
              Bodo last edited by

              ...is there a possibility for Windows now to get fullscreen of the controlwindow for using a touch screen???

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                flick last edited by

                Interesting - this is what I'm looking for too, and it's not working.  Running the script doesn't change anything.

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru @flick last edited by

                  @flick said:

                  Interesting - this is what I'm looking for too, and it's not working.  Running the script doesn't change anything.

                   Yes sorry this was from 3/4 years ago. It probably needs updating. 

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by Skulpture

                    I am revisiting this post - just wondering if this is possible for Windows as well as Mac?

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Would still love an option for Windows! ☺

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru @Skulpture last edited by

                        Just adding to this....

                        A seperate pop out window for the control panel with full screen features would be amazing for kiosk style installations.

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @Skulpture last edited by

                          @skulpture said:

                          A seperate pop out window for the control panel with full screen features would be amazing for kiosk style installations.

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                            timeg last edited by

                            I am also wondering if there has been any further developments on this specifically on the Windows OS platform.

                            :-)~

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                              Woland Tech Staff @timeg last edited by

                              @timeg

                              Not specifically, but with the addition of Python to the program now, one could likely whip something up with that.

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                                Skulpture Izzy Guru @Skulpture last edited by Skulpture

                                @skulpture said:

                                 I'm back at this problem again a few years down the line. I am exploring how to set up a kiosk-style interface for a high-profile installation. The control panel would work perfectly for this; especially with the new feature of V4.0.9, but I need full screen with no top bar - kiosk style and I don't currently know how to do this, or if it's possible at all. Any ideas/developments welcome. 

                                In notch you can load a file into the command line and add "+windowed 1" after the file directory and it loads full screen. Something like this would be perfect.

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                                  DusX Tech Staff @Skulpture last edited by

                                  @skulpture

                                  I believe the closest we can offer right now, is to save the file 'password protected'.

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                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru @DusX last edited by

                                    @dusx Yeah... not what I'm after. Been looking at scripting but there isn't a 'proper' way to do it. My approach is going to be using the stage and faking it. It will work but adds other complexities. 

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                                      Fred @Skulpture last edited by

                                      @skulpture your signature has more windows than mac so here are a few possible tips. 

                                      Use always up https://www.coretechnologies.c... to run Isadora as a service - you can lock out other apps kind of a kiosk mode when there isnt one.

                                      Next - to hide the toolbar - you can use the overscan settings for your monitor - not the best solution, but it basically zooms in on the output using your GPU - no overhead and no real settings - once it is set for a screen it should just remember it.

                                      last - not sure if this is appropriate but if you switch to using a touch screen and disable as much of the keyboard assist as you can (not 100% possible in windows but you get close), and then re calibrate with the over scan you get a pretty convincing kiosk like display.


                                      Last - lots of extra work, but a cool option an OSC browser based control panel - https://github.com/colinbdclar... this library will let you use web based UI elements that send and receive OSC - chrome has an excellent kiosk mode that works well on most OS's and perfectly on Linux - this means you can run just about any old trash machine to do your UI and pass it on to Isadora.

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                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru @Fred last edited by

                                        @fred said:

                                        @skulpture your signature has more windows than mac so here are a few possible tips. 

                                        Use always up https://www.coretechnologies.c... to run Isadora as a service - you can lock out other apps kind of a kiosk mode when there isnt one

                                        This looks intersting thank you. I use one called 'Restart on Crash' it kept a museum install going for over a year for me. The one you have suggested look way better. Thanks.

                                        Next - to hide the toolbar - you can use the overscan settings for your monitor - not the best solution, but it basically zooms in on the output using your GPU - no overhead and no real settings - once it is set for a screen it should just remember it.

                                        A good idea - I will consider it. But I think I am goin gto use the stage output and use the stage mouse watcher. 

                                        last - not sure if this is appropriate but if you switch to using a touch screen and disable as much of the keyboard assist as you can (not 100% possible in windows but you get close), and then re calibrate with the over scan you get a pretty convincing kiosk like display.

                                        We are using a 'proper' touch screen kiosk - I am not sure on the make/model but its one of those portrait ones you see in museums/train stations, etc. It has a built in computer with decent spec. 


                                        Last - lots of extra work, but a cool option an OSC browser based control panel - https://github.com/colinbdclar... this library will let you use web based UI elements that send and receive OSC - chrome has an excellent kiosk mode that works well on most OS's and perfectly on Linux - this means you can run just about any old trash machine to do your UI and pass it on to Isadora.

                                        Brilliant will look at this too. If not for this project I am sure it will be handy. At a glance it seems similar toOpen Stage Control and OSCAR 

                                        As always thanks @fred. 

                                         

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                                          RIL @Skulpture last edited by

                                          @skulpture it would be very helpful a little introduction tutorial for Kiosk mode with Isadora 

                                          Best,

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                                            DusX Tech Staff @Skulpture last edited by

                                            @skulpture

                                            This might help if your using the stage method.

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