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    • monsieurmeus
      monsieurmeus last edited by

      Thanks eight & Matthew for the Kinect tip. Yes I have Kinects but I never used it within Isadora so that mean that I'm really a very beginner in that. I couldn't find in the forum something like "how to use a kinect…" is there something like that somewhere ? If you say it's rather easy, it sound good to me. I didn't find "Fred's kinect server" you're talking about, am I searching the wrong way ?

      Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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      • eight
        eight last edited by

        @monsieurmeus check old forum, I think all of the kinect patches are there: you would need a mac though, because those patches rely on a QC patch and a plugin.

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        • monsieurmeus
          monsieurmeus last edited by

          @Skulpture
          Hi again, sorry to bother you again for something so simple, but, I still get my background in transparency using the technique like you said… It must be simple but still can't find the way like this, I hope I don't have to use a kinect method for that.
          sorry again… 7434bb-screen_diff.png 2abad6-montage.png

          Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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          • vanakaru
            vanakaru last edited by

            You need to trigger ”grab”(I have generator, but can be anything like keyboard watcher etc) and video you grabbing from goes to first input.

            Also I have made it into user actor - it is so basic that you need it almost always for tracking.

            2d249f-backgrnd-subtr.izz

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              Yes. Move out of the way of the camera then somehow (without the camera not seeing you!) press 'grab' on the freeze actor and then move back into the frame.

              It's a start.. you then might need to look at making it look much better.

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              • monsieurmeus
                monsieurmeus last edited by

                thanks a lot for your help and your rapidity! but I still don"t find how to make the image look normal, I mean, not transparent with negative colors…

                Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                • monsieurmeus
                  monsieurmeus last edited by

                  and maybe you can help me also to find the Kinecttoizzy QC plugin, I search and search and can't find it to download…  new or old forum… sorry again

                  Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                  • DusX
                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                    EDIT: don't use this method.. its an unfortunate early attempt ;)

                    I have added something just like this to my livefeed option in SYST3M, unfortunatly the next version its far from ready to share (not working perfect yet).

                    I think what you want to do is (at least what i did) is use a buffer actor to stream into your difference actor.
                    Your buffer needs to be 2 frames and being filled with the freeze frame and your live feed, alternating at the same rate as your FPS (I used the 'Performance Monitor' to set the rate of a Pulse actor->counter->selector. there might be easier ways).
                    Since the difference actor looks at 2 frames (in sequence) of 1 video stream.
                    This will give you a black and white video stream of the 'change', which should be you.
                    You can then use this stream to add an alpha or mask your stream onto another background.

                    I'm attaching a screen grab of a sample.
                    You can see that I stopped using the pulse as the trigger, since the live feedfeed seemed not to be the same FPS as my stage.
                    In anycase this is kind of working.. but I have a fast video flicker.. this might be an issue with my buffer setup.. not sure.
                    Its a start.
                    dc8cbc-untitled-1.jpg

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      try my sample patch

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                      • DusX
                        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                        Heres one that is working pretty well for me.

                        e7b4a1-untitled-2.jpg 6e4c48-removebg1.izz

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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          note: like Skulpture mentioned before, you need to grab a freeze frame that is of the static background first..
                          then you may need to play with the threshold and other actor settings to tune it up.

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                          • Michel
                            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                            and it does help to switch the camera from automatic to manual settings.

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              I like @DusX solution using the AlphaMask!

                              * I might have to recreate that patch and steal it for my collection ;) *

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                              • N
                                nick last edited by

                                if lighting changes you will also need to grab a fresh background frame - depending on your situation it may make sense to grab a fresh background frame whenever the total movement in the frame is less than a threshold - this will help protect against slowly changing light levels

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                                • DusX
                                  DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                  @nick I was thinking of adding a motion detection based reset as well, good call, since half the work is already done.
                                  @Skulpture go to it.. would love to see what you are able to add to it.
                                  @Michel you are so right I was just playing with this with a cheap webcam that is all auto focus, auto white balance etc.. and it simply didn't work at all anymore.

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                                  • N
                                    nick last edited by

                                    yep - movement or light changing are our descriptions of how a difference has been generated, as far as isadora is concerned they are both just differences in pixels across the frame

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                                    • monsieurmeus
                                      monsieurmeus last edited by

                                      Hi everybody, thanks so much for your help, I'd like to invinte you all to drink a pastis in the sun but I can't upload the bottle…

                                      A question remains to me is the blinking effect, how do you get rid of that ?  I tried a pulse generator, but I still get my selector slowly switching from 1 to 2 with unregular rhythm, my computer is also slowing down to 10fps…

                                      Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        Yes the flicker is quite annoying; but I guess since you are wanting to take a picture this shouldn't effect things too much.

                                        I am working on this though. By Ssing @DusX glrious technique (with a bit of tinkering) I think it can be done quite effectively. But I need a bit more time.

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                                        • monsieurmeus
                                          monsieurmeus last edited by

                                          Hi Skulpture,

                                          thanks for your reply. In fact, I don't need just a picture, I need to have this as a live stream overalyed on a video file… 

                                          Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Apologies my mistake. So the jutter/jitter is quite important then! :-)

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