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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      I have turned Marks script into an App. Just for those who find it easier to work with; I use it this way so on start up the machine automatically loads this app and kick stats isadora.5a886c-isadora-watcher-mc.app.zip

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        I now have a new problem..... After about two hours of running an Isadora patch it is locking up. No crash. Just goes still and as soon as I move the mouse I get the spinning beach ball.

        This patch needs to run for 8 hours a day; best I can get is 2 hours. Bit worried. Does anyone know if I can make automator look for "not responding" instead of crash... because Isadora isn't even crashing.
        I have a feeling this is a Quicktime issue....

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          i wish i could help skulpture but i feel all i can do is offer supportive words in a post following yours.  can i ask what the patch is doing, sorry i mean what does isadora output and is the 2 hour thing in any way related to a mulitiple of the loop time of the piece, i have of course gone for the big assumption of a looping video....

          isadora v3.0.7
          mbp 2.6ghz i7
          mac osx 10.12.6
          dyslexic.

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            The patch is doing quite basic stuff;

            - Pick 1 of 6 videos and plays it.
            - If no video is chosen after 2 mins it plays a demo video.
            But it will be running all day 5 days a week. It keeps hanging up after *about* two hours. 
            I am sure I will sort it out but I can't seem to understand why its happening right now. 

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • particlep
              particlep last edited by

              i sounds quite a quandary. could it be at all related to a system thing like put hard disc to sleep after 2 hours? r u testing the patch by letting the demo run every two minutes ? does this all take place in the same scene ? my approach here is asking questions with the intention of doing things with the stuff u already know.

              isadora v3.0.7
              mbp 2.6ghz i7
              mac osx 10.12.6
              dyslexic.

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                Nope all energy saving and screen savers stuff is off; checked that.

                Demo video is running every 2 mins with me now and again triggering a video.
                Videos are in various scenes, so no not just one.
                Weird huh?

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                • particlep
                  particlep last edited by

                  oh yes ! do you suspect it to be connected to quicktime memory leakage filling up the ram ?

                  isadora v3.0.7
                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                  mac osx 10.12.6
                  dyslexic.

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                  • N
                    nick last edited by

                    have you looked at the console output ot see of there are any clues in there ?

                    MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      @particlep - I have a feeling that's it.

                      @nick yes but it doesn't mean much to me. My coding/programming skills are next to nothing... 

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • particlep
                        particlep last edited by

                        i"m only aware of it as i"m remembering a post somewhere on the original forum by mark about it. as a way of testing it, if u were to make a demo video file that is twice the size of the existing demo file, what do u see happen to the mean time to hang ?

                        isadora v3.0.7
                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                        mac osx 10.12.6
                        dyslexic.

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          In fact it just did it now.... lasted about 3hrs25mins (approx).

                          Again no crash, just pauses and then beach ball.
                          I have saved the crash file console output (wont let me attach it here as a ZIP for some reason)

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Attached it.... 01d33d-izzy-crash-gt.rtf

                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                            • particlep
                              particlep last edited by

                              can you run the patch on an older mac with an older operating system at all to check if it's something connected to mac os?

                              isadora v3.0.7
                              mbp 2.6ghz i7
                              mac osx 10.12.6
                              dyslexic.

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                I can try that yes. I might give it a go tomorrow.

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                • particlep
                                  particlep last edited by

                                  i found this

                                  http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/2012/Mar/msg00000.html
                                  in it there''s a reference to the opngl driver monitor.  i have no idea what it is, but it seems to monitor something, that might be useful.  i might just have to make a cup of tea, as i don;t think i'm adding too much now.

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    Thanks for your thoughts though @particlep I appriciate it :-)

                                    On a brighter note - my work macbook pro retina just arrived! Woo!

                                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                    • vanakaru
                                      vanakaru last edited by

                                      Try to ask help from these guys

                                      http://hintsforums.macworld.com
                                      There are some great enthusiasts who also are good reading clues from the console logs.
                                      It may have something to do how many times a loop is allowed to play by the system(or Isadora?). Original size 2 hours 2x the size almost 4 hours?!

                                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        Thanks will do @vanakaru

                                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                        • Skulpture
                                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                          I have created a post on the macworld forum; but waiting validation, etc.

                                          I have also seen that it's happening on similar software such as max/msp+jitter:
                                          http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28251
                                          And processing:
                                          http://processing.org/discourse/alpha/board_Proce55ing_software_bugs_action_display_num_1106328253.html
                                          This is a huge issue, can't understand how or why Apple have done this? 

                                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                          • N
                                            nick last edited by

                                            Its an assumption at the moment that those other issues are the same as yours - one is from 7 years ago, so may not be a live issue any more.

                                            Can you post your patch - there might be something unusual in it that you may not have noticed ?
                                            Try running your patch with Activity Monitor running (found in the Utilities folder) to monitor its memory use as it runs  - it may provide a clue.

                                            MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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