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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      I like @DusX solution using the AlphaMask!

      * I might have to recreate that patch and steal it for my collection ;) *

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        nick last edited by

        if lighting changes you will also need to grab a fresh background frame - depending on your situation it may make sense to grab a fresh background frame whenever the total movement in the frame is less than a threshold - this will help protect against slowly changing light levels

        MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

          @nick I was thinking of adding a motion detection based reset as well, good call, since half the work is already done.
          @Skulpture go to it.. would love to see what you are able to add to it.
          @Michel you are so right I was just playing with this with a cheap webcam that is all auto focus, auto white balance etc.. and it simply didn't work at all anymore.

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            nick last edited by

            yep - movement or light changing are our descriptions of how a difference has been generated, as far as isadora is concerned they are both just differences in pixels across the frame

            MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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            • monsieurmeus
              monsieurmeus last edited by

              Hi everybody, thanks so much for your help, I'd like to invinte you all to drink a pastis in the sun but I can't upload the bottle…

              A question remains to me is the blinking effect, how do you get rid of that ?  I tried a pulse generator, but I still get my selector slowly switching from 1 to 2 with unregular rhythm, my computer is also slowing down to 10fps…

              Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                Yes the flicker is quite annoying; but I guess since you are wanting to take a picture this shouldn't effect things too much.

                I am working on this though. By Ssing @DusX glrious technique (with a bit of tinkering) I think it can be done quite effectively. But I need a bit more time.

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                • monsieurmeus
                  monsieurmeus last edited by

                  Hi Skulpture,

                  thanks for your reply. In fact, I don't need just a picture, I need to have this as a live stream overalyed on a video file… 

                  Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Apologies my mistake. So the jutter/jitter is quite important then! :-)

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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                      I was able to get a rather smooth video with my last patch uploaded.
                      By dropping the buffer element and triggering direct from the live input the flicker was removed.
                      The only artifact is that the mask is recreated on every other frame so I added the motion blur to help smooth this out. I was pretty happy with the outcome, however; I don't know exacly what you are planning.
                      You could alternately use the mask stream to inject an alpha channel to the live video allowing some other compositing.
                      Frame-rate is really going to depend on your live streams source resolution. I can get 30fps at 640x480, but my machine is current and fast. The blur effects are going to be a factor here as well, so I think I had 2 gaussian blur actors, you can do with out, or use just one. I was playing with removing some background details since in my living room here I have a large window behind that was causing some problems. If you can light yourself and keep the background dark you should have a much better time of it.

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        I was using motion blur and effects mixer using submin mode instead of the selector but it was still jumpy. (will post patch soon)

                        I also had issues with submin as in certain spots it spoiled the effects; so really, like you say DusX, the key is background and light control.

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                        • monsieurmeus
                          monsieurmeus last edited by

                          Hi Skulpture, did you had a brilliant idea about that project of removing the background without jumpy image? I tried without finding a solution. I thought it would be easier, photo booth did that so simply, it's using the same parameters we can have in izzy, but how ?

                          thanks

                          Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            I will try and finish it today. I was nearly there but still a little jumpy.

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              This is the closet I can get.... its not perfect by any means!

                              My background at work is awful; full of multicoloured posters so that doesn't help me.

                              d696af-photo-booth.izz

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                              • DusX
                                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                I think the idea is sound.. just trying to process the selection is the hard part since you don't get a clean outline from the difference actor.
                                Some sort of 'vectorize' effect like photoshops cutout might help.. I may play around some more....I have MANY freeframe FX.
                                Maybe a burn and dilate combo.. ?

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  Yea I was trying to give it a vector(ish) style using threshold and blur.

                                  Burn might do it actually.
                                  Basically; the fact remains that the background needs to be a minimal as possible! Or ideally one block of colour that you can key out.

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