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    • GertjanB
      GertjanB Beta Platinum last edited by

      Good news,

      I just had a full day of very long only meetings, in google meet (chrome) and zoom. (one time even 2 meetings at the same time meet & zoom)

      I did all the meetings trough Isadora and syphon virtual webcam (also because I have made a handy tool with the buffer and a random value player so it looks like I'm present)

      And I didn't have any crashes or freezes. (after now 10h).

      www.gertjanbiasino.be

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      • mark
        mark @jfg last edited by mark

        @jfg

        Thanks for testing, but don't worry about b38. I tested in 3.0.7 and the latest beta (b44) and Isadora accepts the virtual webcam fine. 

        For the benefit of those new to Isadora: because Isadora accepts Syphon natively, there is no reason to use Syphon Virtual Webcam as an input to Isadora. You should just use the Syphon Receiver actor to receive the signal directly.

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • dbini
          dbini @mark last edited by

          hello everyone, I've been pushing Syphon Virtual Webcam pretty hard today and had a couple of freezes. i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen. I closed SVW and the whole computer froze up and needed hard rebooting. same thing both times (i didn't have time to wait to see if it would come back to life on its own)
          its the latest version of SVW from the plugins page on my MacBook Pro running 10.13.6.

          John Collingswood
          taikabox.com
          2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
          plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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          • mark
            mark @dbini last edited by

            @dbini said:

            i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen

            OK. I've never worked with Ninja, so we can give this a try.

            Importance Questions: Please Answer in your reply!

            Do you have OBS v26.1 or later installed on your computer?

            What was the resolution of the source image?

            And what message did SVW display exactly? It doesn't display a message... the only thing it will do is to show the "test pattern" screen if the connection drops. Is that what they mean?

            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • dbini
              dbini @mark last edited by

              @mark

              hi Mark,

              i have OBS v23.1 installed, but probably installed v26 last Summer, and then uninstalled it and reverted to v23 when i discovered i couldn't use a Ninja link as a browser source. i usually use AppZapper to remove stuff, but it may have left something behind.

              source image is 1280x800 to match the projectors we're using.

              the Hungarian company said that they got a message onscreen saying something like Syphon Virtual Webcam has stopped working. it was a bit difficult to tell what was going on at the time because of the video freezing and me trying to work out what was going on. the message may have been generated by Ninja.

              cheers,

              john

              John Collingswood
              taikabox.com
              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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              • mark
                mark @dbini last edited by mark

                @dbini

                i usually use AppZapper to remove stuff, but it may have left something behind.

                 It may not know about the location of the driver. It lives at

                /Library/CoreMediaIO/Plug-Ins/DAL/

                in any case, the v0.9.6 version of Syphon Virtual Webcam works with both the old driver and the new one from OBS 26.1. But if you really want to downgrade, then

                • quit everything
                • go to /Library/CoreMediaIO/Plug-Ins/DAL/
                • delete obs-mac-virtualcam.plugin
                • and restart Syphon Virtual Webcam

                In any case, thanks for the info. I'm a bit slammed at the moment, but I will see what I can find out as soon as I can.

                Best Wishes,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • dbini
                  dbini @mark last edited by

                  @mark
                  i fixed another issue, which means i can use my iMac instead of my Macbook for this project - today, with the same setup on the iMac, SVW has been stable. thanks for the advice. i'll try it on my laptop at some point and report back.

                  John Collingswood
                  taikabox.com
                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                  • RWillats
                    RWillats @dbini last edited by

                    It's been a while since I've used Syphon, but I've used it successfully in the past. I just tried to get it up and going, but Zoom didn't recognize it. I followed the steps above to uninstall everything and started from scratch. 

                    Now, when I try to open Syphon (to then re-install the OBS Virtual Cam), the icon appears on the dock, but the actual window doesn't appear. If I go to help>install OBS Virtual Camera Plugin it waits and then closes the Syphon app. I can't get any further. Any ideas? 

                    Best,

                    Rory

                    MacBook Pro M1, 2020 Sonoma 14.5; Zoom 6.0.11

                    MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                    • Woland
                      Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by

                      @rwillats

                      It might not be compatible with macOS Sonoma

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                      • RWillats
                        RWillats @Woland last edited by

                        @woland I feared this might be the case

                        MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by Woland

                          @rwillats said:

                          @woland I feared this might be the case

                          Microsoft: If someone makes a program for our OS, it should be able to run forever.

                          Apple: Let's break everything every single year. Lol 😂

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                          • RWillats
                            RWillats @Woland last edited by RWillats

                            @woland Hahahaha 

                            and getting NDI into zoom is still really pricey--I think I might just be stuck with this one

                            MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff @RWillats last edited by

                              @rwillats

                              You could check and see if OBS's actual virtual webcam plugin for OBS has been updated to support Sonoma. You should be able to get Isadora or NDI output into OBS. That might be a path forward.

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                              • RWillats
                                RWillats @Woland last edited by

                                @woland

                                Appears to be a solution here: https://support.apple.com/en-u...

                                I'll be checking it out tomorrow

                                MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                                • RWillats
                                  RWillats @RWillats last edited by

                                  @rwillats

                                  It may still be a solution, but not for me. I restored the legacy camera settings but no luck

                                  MacBook Pro, M1, 2020, Sonoma 14.5

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                                  • Aolis
                                    Aolis @RWillats last edited by

                                    @rwillats

                                    It didn't work for me either.

                                    Media Artist & Teacher
                                    MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                    Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                    • Aolis
                                      Aolis last edited by

                                      Is there any plan of updating Syphon Virtual Webcam to work in Sonoma? 

                                      Does anyone know of another virtual webcam solution they would recommend?

                                      -Alex

                                      Media Artist & Teacher
                                      MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                      Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                      • GertjanB
                                        GertjanB Beta Platinum @Aolis last edited by

                                        @aolis


                                        An alternative could be NDI virtual input: https://ndi.video/tools/ndi-virtual-input/

                                        I've been using it for a while and it works great. 

                                        www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                                        • Woland
                                          Woland Tech Staff @Aolis last edited by

                                          @aolis said:

                                          Is there any plan of updating Syphon Virtual Webcam to work in Sonoma? 

                                           At the moment we are focusing on the (imminent) release of Isadora 4

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                                          • Aolis
                                            Aolis @Woland last edited by

                                            @woland

                                            Nice. Just bought my upgrade. <3

                                            Media Artist & Teacher
                                            MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                            Sonoma 14.3.1

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