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    Split properly an image with Matrox DH2Go / TH2Go

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    • maiami
      maiami last edited by

      Great, thanks!
      I do wait for the link
      (I know understand why the Core Upgrade is useful & will purchase it asap)
      All the best

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      • maiami
        maiami last edited by

        Also thank you Medhi for redirecting me, i think i'll be able to manage it with those informations ; sometimes the matter is just to find the right words to get them...

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        • maiami
          maiami last edited by

          hi,
          i'm still searching for a soft edge solution to split properly an image with 2 projectors on a same screen (with a TH2Go).

          I did find the "QC SEB" actor, but i can't make it work, it seems it's only an example, it has no input...
          I understood i should re-work it in Quartz Composer, but

          1. i can't find QC app. for my "old" snow leopard
          2. i'm not such a developper... lost in translation...
          3. i'm quite short on time...

          Do you know how to find this actor, or similar in a "ready-to-use" version?

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          • Michel
            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

            Hello maiami

            I can publish the inputs in Quartz Composer but that wouldn't work in Isadora out of the box, I tried it. You have to change the QC patch first, and at the moment I don't have time to sit down and look at it.

            Best
            Michel

            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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            • maiami
              maiami last edited by

              Hi Michel,
              thank you for answering
              the thing is that QComp is a mystery for me...
              To precise : i do have the Core Video upgrade.

              best - maia

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              • MatthewH
                MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                Hi Maia,

                This should do it:
                Best,
                Matthew

                0fb96a-edgeblendv1.zip

                Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                • maiami
                  maiami last edited by

                  Hi Matthew,
                  thanx a lot
                  it's getting better, but i still do have a thin line (black or bright, depending on ajustments), that i can't make softer....
                  As i'm searching step by step, maybe i missed something?
                  Also if i remove the pixel chopper, i have full size image on each projector (so twice), even if in stage pref. i did split left half / right half....
                  In attached files, a picture of the projection + my patch (is it absurd?)

                  f9de47-img_5718.jpg 6007c7-izz2projpatch120113.tiff

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                  • maiami
                    maiami last edited by

                    hi
                    i did find seb actor with input in skulpture post on this discussion : http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/243/edge-blending-masks/p1

                    in case of...

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      I had a go at editing the patch @michel but it was taking a long time and a lot of number crunching. (it's always strange for me working on someone else quartz patch)

                      I have sent @maiami as simple but effect patch that uses a picture (.gif) file with a black and white ramp; which can be zoomed and panned for each stage (projectors 1 and 2).
                      For those who want to try it; here it is....

                      ee9e1a-dh2g.zip

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • MatthewH
                        MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                        Hi Maia,

                        Unfortunately, I'm not sure why that line is appearing. I have used that Quartz comp many times without that issue and I don't have time right now to try and troubleshoot what is going on but perhaps someone else can weigh in.
                        -Matthew

                        Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                        • keftaparty
                          keftaparty last edited by

                          @maiami

                          What kind of projectors are you using ? LCD or DLP ?
                          I had the same problems when using LCD projectors with softedge systems developped with DLPs
                          @MatthewH : Are you maybe always using DLPs for softedge ?
                          Best
                          Mehdi

                          ...
                          Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                          www.toutain-lopez.com

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            @MatthewH I am getting the line to. Strange. I can see how the Quartz actor is supposed to work but it just inst behaving quite right.

                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                            • maiami
                              maiami last edited by

                              Hi
                              @ Medhi : yes i'm using LCD projectors...
                              i had a new surprise about that : in french i'd say "irisation", meaning that depending on where you are in the room the color (the color temperature you see) of the projector changes, which is, of course, really wired with 2 proj splitting one image on its middle... (would be maybe less with DLP, what do you think?)

                              For the soft edge, I'm at this point using a mix between different parts of your solutions guys ;-) : Chop Pixels + alpha mask with a gradient (@Skulpture, no zoonmer) + 3D quad distort. It's not so bad, but not perfect yet, i still have a more shiny, or dark (depending on ajustments) stripe at the overlapping point...

                              @ Skupture : i did make some new ramp, more thin (cause my overlappping area is not so large), but i'm not sure of the better way to do it : i did, in Photoshop, a common gradient, saved in Gif with "Black&White"+transparency settings (see in attached file) : any mistake, or reason to have a shiny line when overlapping?
                              cf747b-psgifsettings.tiff 9a355b-ramp6.gif

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                It's good that you are getting closer to your solution. I am sure you will sort it out soon.

                                Those gif settings look right to me. As for the shiny line.... hard to say really without seeing it in real life and standing looking at your isadora patch.

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                • maiami
                                  maiami last edited by

                                  Instead of real life, some pictures... ;)
                                  It's less shiny then it was with Matthew solution, or without any alpha mask, but still there.
                                  The 1st one is with the gradient example I sent last post, the 2nd is with an even thiner one.

                                  And the patch is attached also....

                                  Thank you (all of you) for searching and support!

                                  a38ce2-img_5719.jpg 3cc726-img_5720.jpg 55c735-izzpatch160113.tiff

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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    I would try putting a contrast adjust after the mask picture player (the black and white fade gif file)

                                    You can control the brightness of the mask then.

                                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                    • maiami
                                      maiami last edited by

                                      I tried... not so good. it changes but in any ways i still have a line.
                                      the only efficient setting is the output max... affecting the complete picture, even putting it just after the ramp.
                                      I'll maybe try to have a mask with a lowest opacity directly in Photoshop, what do you think?
                                      I try and tell you.

                                      Is the patch correct?

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                                      • maiami
                                        maiami last edited by

                                        Also, does Isadora support png?
                                        I did try, unsuccesfully...

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                                        • keftaparty
                                          keftaparty last edited by

                                          Hi, for the "irisation",

                                          I think it's because that the surface you project on is "reflecting" the video in a different way depending on the angle between the source and your point of view...
                                          I did a little schema, I don't know how to say this !
                                          ![](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/uploads/FileUpload/bd/7f494b-angle-de-projection.jpg)
                                          I have no solution to this... ( put your beamers super far... )

                                          7f494b-angle-de-projection.jpg

                                          ...
                                          Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                                          www.toutain-lopez.com

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                                          • maiami
                                            maiami last edited by

                                            yes, you're right, i did get that ; i'm on a cyclorama... and not in back (retroprojection) but in front so it's not the better way...
                                            But thanx for the shema, i'll use it to explain that to my director!!

                                            and if i use this f***ing matrox + 2 beamers system is because i can't be far, for a wide screen format...

                                            but i'm not searching any solution for that (the only i can imagine right now would to put all the audience on a same line ;-), we'll put a bit of light upon the video which does not need complete darkness...

                                            no, my real problem is still this overlapping line...

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