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    • Clement
      Clement last edited by

      Hello everybody,

      I'm a new user of Isadora and this is my first post, in advance sorry for my English !
      I read some discussions about the kinect and syphon, but it's still confused to me...
      I would like to receive values from synapse (right and left hands for example) and stream the image into izzy.
      So first, Synapse launched, I succeed to recognize the kinect in "Stream Setup" by setting the right OSC port number, but the "Data" in front of each address are not numbers, but directions (up, right, back,...) ; when I use the actor "OSC Listener" there is no outgoing value linked with channels.
      Does anyone know how to resolve this ? May the intermediary of OSCulator help to get values ?
      About Syphon, I don't really understand which plugins are to be installed for each application : if there is a syphon server from one side and a syphon client on the other, specific plugins have to be installed for each application (synapse and izzy), aren't they ? But I seem to read that synapse already include syphon server and client...
      So I downloaded Matthew Haber's files (Syphon Client v1.0.qtz and Syphon Server v1.0.qtz) and I put them into Mac HD > Library > Application Support > FreeFrame, but I don't understand if there is another plugin to instal from the website of Syphon ?
      Michel propose in a post to copy Syphon.plugin to Library > Graphics > Quartz Composer Plug-Ins, is it another solution as Matthew Haber's one or is it complementary ?
      They're certainly inexperienced questions, but thanks for help.
      All the best.
      Clément

      https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
      MBP retina late 2013 l 2,3GHz Core i7 l 16GB Ram l 2GB VRAM l OSX 10.12.6 l Latest Isadora version

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        Hi,

        First question do you have the Isadora Core upgrade?

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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        • Clement
          Clement last edited by

          Hi,

          Yes I have the Isadora Core upgrade and my version is 1.3.0f25

          https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
          MBP retina late 2013 l 2,3GHz Core i7 l 16GB Ram l 2GB VRAM l OSX 10.12.6 l Latest Isadora version

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          • bruper
            bruper last edited by

            @Clement, on 10.6.8 I use Synapse with quartz_passthrough_plus (Max) to Isadora and have all the numerical data on OSC listener.
            Synapse recognize my skeleton and al the part of it.

            17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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            • Clement
              Clement last edited by

              @bruper, thank you, it works fine with this max runtime patch (on synapse website, included with the plugin for QC) : I get xyz values for the main parameters (hands, head and torso).

              In discussion "kinect to izzy" mark is working on a plug which allows to pull directly the depth image from the kinect, for now it seems to work for few people (not for me) ; but if the camera is recognized by izzy, I think it can't be used by synapse at the same time, this is why I'm interested by syphon.
              Does anyone know the right steps to follow in my case ?
              Thanks

              https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
              MBP retina late 2013 l 2,3GHz Core i7 l 16GB Ram l 2GB VRAM l OSX 10.12.6 l Latest Isadora version

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                There are a few kinect plugins around and I often find them all very confusing; despite using some of them most days. Download and try each oen individually otherwise you get errors and confusing/conflicting data.

                I also really want to make a tutorial about setting up Syphon for isadora.... I will try my very best over the next few days.

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                • Clement
                  Clement last edited by

                  Ok, I will try different plugins and let you know if I find a solution...

                  Thanks, waiting your tutorial !

                  https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
                  MBP retina late 2013 l 2,3GHz Core i7 l 16GB Ram l 2GB VRAM l OSX 10.12.6 l Latest Isadora version

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Might help....

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4SNKXxcGI

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • Clement
                      Clement last edited by

                      Hi,

                      Thank's for this tutorial, that's what I succeed to do !
                      I made several tests to get the depth image of the kinect into Izzy through Syphon and the solution is to send the Image from Quartz Composer (the developer of Synapse made a plugin to communicate with QC).
                      So what is need in **Mac HD > Library > Graphics > Quartz Composer Plug-Ins** :
                      - Synapse Kinect.plugin (from Synapse web site)
                      - Syphon.plugin (from Syphon web site ; this plug include the client and server objects for QC)
                      What is need in **Mac HD > Library > Application Support > FreeFrame** :
                      - Syphon Client v1.0.qtz
                      - Syphon Server v1.0.qtz (both from Matthew Haber web site)
                      In the .dmg file downloaded from Syphon, there are several client and sever .qtz files, each one works fine with Isadora but Matthew Haber's ones seem to be more specific for Izzy.
                      However if you want to use them you've got to put them in Library > Compositions (Maybe it works in the FreeFrame directory too).
                      Hope this will help !

                      https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
                      MBP retina late 2013 l 2,3GHz Core i7 l 16GB Ram l 2GB VRAM l OSX 10.12.6 l Latest Isadora version

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