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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      @vanakaru I am going to do a full write up about it on my blog I think.

      I originally had 6 movie players and 6 projectors. All 6 movie players initialised with videos 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 but all turned off. When a user picked a video it turned on one of the movie players and it started playing.
      Now a trigger value sends the number of the video directly into the movie player and it starts. I also upgraded to 1.3.0f26 and changed the movie player to CI and CI Projectors.
      If a user does not pick a video for 90 seconds then automatically it jumps to a scene to play a demo video. Every 15 mins it plays a promo video. So its always active and is never inactive for more than 90 seconds. Constantly going.
      The system has been going since 8:45 this morning and it is currently 1:50PM in the UK. So its still going strong. I *think* I can still see the RAM being taken up very slowly by this memory leak from Quicktime via the activity window but I doubt it is going to crash my system for another few hours. I am still unsure about this Quicktime thing and as Nick rightly pointed out I was openly presuming this.
      So instead of 6 videos being opened in the background, now none are only deployed when triggered; if this makes sense?
      In terms of videos being triggered rapidly by your patch Vanakaru; I imagine it relates back to Marks post above;
      1. You request movie 5 (i.e., send a 5 to the 'movie' input)
      2. Before the background preload of movie 5 completes, you request a different clip -- e.g., movie 6 -- by sending a 6 into the 'movie' input
      3. Movie 5 goes off to the nether world, consuming memory and resources
      So in theory if you trigger 5 clips in quick fire rapid style, even though a video has not played fully and you are on to the next one, it is still processing in the background threads and 'inner workings' and after a period of time, will slow your machine down. Resulting in a hang up/lock up or crash.
      Hope this helps for now.
      Graham

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • particlep
        particlep last edited by

        @Skulpture

        it's good to read that you're getting somewhere with the hang time senario. 
        after reading it i drifted off into memories of dvd control in show control mode and a thought occurred to me:- what if you actually only worked with two or even just one video file ?
        it would require a radical re think to how you programmed the thing, but in theory if it were to be only one video, you'd simply be locating and playing within one video.

        isadora v3.0.7
        mbp 2.6ghz i7
        mac osx 10.12.6
        dyslexic.

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Well, let me just add that even if you select 1000 movies per second, Isadora should be smart enough not to crash. I thought I'd handled this problem but I'll revisit it as soon as I can.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • vanakaru
            vanakaru last edited by

            @Skulpture

            Look at the macosxhints forum. There is a possible clue for us to think about:
            Looking at the crash log you provided, I see that the IsadoraCore process is not taking up much memory (see "Task Size") so it is unlikely to be an issue with a memory leak.

            But I see that it is running a huge number of JavaScript threads. I suspect something going astray there. (Again, this is something for the developer to solve, not you)

            MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              Javascript? Hmmmm.

              I've replied anyway with some of my replies/investigations.

              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                Dear Vanakaru + Graham,

                Don't be fooled by those javascript threads; that's actually QuickTime doing its thing -- it's most definitely isn't JScript. I think if there are tons of threads sitting around, it all goes back to my comment above about background movie loading, etc.
                Graham, if you're still having trouble with this, let's talk about it next week and see if you can provide me with a test case.
                Best Wishes,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • J
                  jacwdale last edited by

                  The Isadora watcher looks and sounds great though I can't get it to run. I don't have any experience of automator so this may be why.

                  When running the script it notes that and unknown token can't go after this identifier and then highlights the firsttwo letters of the script PK but I'm not sure what to do to fix this. 
                  Can you shed any light?
                  Thanks
                  Jack
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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Can you take a screen shot for me please?

                    Thanks,
                    Graham

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Make sure you download the latest one I made this one:

                      [http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/download/228/Isadora%20Watcher%20%28MC%29.app.zip](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/download/228/Isadora%20Watcher%20%28MC%29.app.zip)
                      Open it in Automator and you will see which sections to change:
                      - Isadora File (and location)
                      - Isadora Version (and location)

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • bruper
                        bruper last edited by

                        which OS?
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                        17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                        • mark
                          mark last edited by

                          Did you download Graham's version or my version? Mine is called Isadora-auto-restart.scpt -- I posted it in November.

                          Read my comments inside the script carefully: you need to modify the two properties at the top of the script for it to to work.
                          Give it a try. If it doesn't work, let me know.
                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • mark
                            mark last edited by

                            Dear All,

                            A user needed some help setting up the script I posted. I'm posting instructions here, and attaching the my version of the script again for everyone's benefit. I've also embedded the instructions into the script itself.
                            -- M
                            ----------------------
                            The attached AppleScript will re-boot Isadora automatically if Isadora crashes for some reason. To customize it for your setup, please follow these instructions.
                            1) Unzip the attached file
                            2) Double-click the script
                            3) At the very top you'll see this:
                            -- change this property to the full path to the 
                            -- Isadora application you wish to run
                            property gIsadoraFullPath : "/Applications/Isadora/IsadoraCore 1.3.0f24.app"
                            -- change this property to the full path of the 
                            -- document you wish to open
                            property gDocumentFullPath : "/Isadora watcher/test.izz"
                            You need to change these two paths so they are specific to your computer. The easiest way to get these paths is to use Apple's Terminal application, which is located in the Utilities folder.
                            So...
                            4) Open the Terminal application
                            5) Drag the Isadora application into the Terminal Window -- you'll see the full path appear there.
                            6) Copy the full path and paste replace the text "/Applications/Isadora/IsadoraCore 1.3.0f24.app" in the script with the text you copied. (It is very important that this path is enclosed in double-quotes!)
                            7) Hit return in Terminal -- you'll get an error like "/Applications/Isadora/IsadoraCore.app: is a directory" -- ignore this.
                            8) Repeat steps 5-7 with your Isadora document. Except you'll replace the text "/Isadora watcher/test.izz" with the text that appears in Terminal.

                            c2c74b-isadora-auto-restart.scpt.zip

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Even though I cracked this I sometimes get automator crashing believe it or not.

                              I have since found this which I might investigate further...
                              [http://blairneal.com/blog/installation-up-4evr/](http://blairneal.com/blog/installation-up-4evr/)

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • Aolis
                                Aolis last edited by

                                Hello all,

                                I am currently in the process of researching this type of auto-restart method and am wondering if there is a way of ensuring that the video input is initialized when Isadora comes back up after an auto-restart?
                                -A

                                Media Artist & Teacher
                                MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                • Aolis
                                  Aolis last edited by

                                  So - I haven't figured out how to initialize the camera automatically - but I cam across this software that pushes a webcam to a syphon server: https://code.google.com/p/syphon-camera/

                                  The syphon input initializes automatically and thus the video comes up when the system recovers from the crash.
                                  Would still want to know how to use the built in video-in though if anyone knows how.
                                  -A

                                  Media Artist & Teacher
                                  MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                  Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                  • Michel
                                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    @Aolis

                                    You can use the "enter scene trigger" and the "capture control" actor.

                                    Best
                                    Michel

                                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    • Aolis
                                      Aolis last edited by

                                      That's painfully obv...er....wonderful, thank you so much. I completely forgot about the capture actor. -a

                                      Media Artist & Teacher
                                      MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                      Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                      • Aolis
                                        Aolis last edited by

                                        So . . . using Lingon 3 I have been able to ensure that Isadora restarts after a crash.  However - is there a way to ensure that the 'Isadora has crashed unexpectedly' error box that comes up after a crash automatically clears or ensure that it doesn't come up at all?

                                        After restarting this dialog box is still visible.
                                        Kind regards, 
                                        Alex Oliszewski

                                        Media Artist & Teacher
                                        MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
                                        Sonoma 14.3.1

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                                        • particlep
                                          particlep last edited by

                                          i'm using this script to day to relaunch isadora and when i make an application from it it no longer runs.

                                          "can't make name of item 34 .... " is how the really long spiel begins.
                                          it appears to be happy and well when running in the script editor.
                                          i've enjoyed returning to this thread after a few years and wonder if any of the script needs a tweak ?  
                                          i ask as my apple script editing is rather weak and don;t know where to begin. xx

                                          isadora v3.0.7
                                          mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                          mac osx 10.12.6
                                          dyslexic.

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            oh !

                                            apple script editor now stopped.  first three lines of error is ...
                                            Can’t make name of item 37 of {«class pcap» 
                                            "loginwindow" of application "Finder", «class pcap» 
                                            "Dock" of application "Finder", «class pcap» 

                                            isadora v3.0.7
                                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                            mac osx 10.12.6
                                            dyslexic.

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