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    Multiprojector + Mac OS Window Frustration: A Helpful Trick

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    • CitizenJoe
      CitizenJoe last edited by

      Mark, that's fantastic!  I've been wishing for the same thing on Windows!

      Cheers,

      Hugh

      Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
      Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6

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      • PacoTheCharm
        PacoTheCharm last edited by

        great!

        On a similar subject, when having multiple projectors do you guys have trouble with the computer reassigning the main desktop or other screens order to other devices than control monitor according to what was turned on/in what order? It came across as a question during a meeting today, I thought I had dealt with this before, but can't remember how.

        Set, Lighting, Projection Designer
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        • Bill Cottman
          Bill Cottman last edited by

          Thanks in advance of experiencing this problem. Question: Should I run the app as part of my pre-show setup procedure to prevent this from happening?

          http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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          • mark
            mark last edited by

            To PacoTheCharm: I myself don't understand the logic by which the outputs are chosen -- but I've ended up with the menu bar on the beamer several times now. Very frustrating! My procedure now goes like this.

            1) Start with only main monitor plugged in. This ensures the login screen and menu bar show up there first.
            2) Plug in each beamer, ensuring that it is done in a reliable order each time (i.e., projector 1, then projector 2, etc.)
            This seems to give me a reliable setup. But maybe someone else has a better solution.
            To Vanderzee: Running it advance won't help. But if you open a window and it ends up on the beamer, run this app and and it will place all windows on the main screen.
            Best,
            M

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • eight
              eight last edited by

              I had a feeling that the bar on the beamer issue only happens once, when a given projector is connected to a computer for the first time. After that, it seemed to remember the the settings from the previous time.

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              • MatthewH
                MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                Actually, 10.8 has a known bug on Mac Pros wherein it forgets which monitor is primary on restart which could account for some of these issues.

                Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                • primaldivine
                  primaldivine last edited by

                  Yep, had the very same problems with main monitor being forgotten consistently on a MacPro on OS 10.8 with two video cards and four projectors. Seems to me Apple has been spending too much time thinking about the iPhone... really poor programming behaviour methinks?

                  Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                  • primaldivine
                    primaldivine last edited by

                    ps, thanks for the script, mark. WIll try it tomorrow on the MacPro.  :)

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                    • Dappertutto
                      Dappertutto last edited by

                      Thanks, that's super helpful.

                      I noticed that it doesn't move over the System Prefs windows. Would it be possible to make the script do that?
                      It would be useful in the following scenario: Sometimes I need to change the desktop backgrounds to solid black, however the "Gather Windows" feature only works with the Displays prefs. In a multi-projector setup, it's a huge pain to grab all those Desktop & Screen Saver windows and drag them over.
                      PS - A little tip for reducing headaches during tech. When I'm in a multi-projector situation and can't see where my mouse is, I turn on a little app called PinPoint. It puts a big red circle around your mouse pointer and makes it a lot easier to find!
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                      • mockej
                        mockej last edited by

                        fantastic... Thanks!

                        rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                        • keftaparty
                          keftaparty last edited by

                          Hi,

                          for pc users, a little software that simulates edid, so you system allways "see" monitors even if they are not yet plugged:
                          [power strip](http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm)
                          A little hardware solution for those who can afford it:
                          [dvi detective](http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4715)
                          Mehdi

                          ...
                          Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                          www.toutain-lopez.com

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                          • MatthewH
                            MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                            @Dappertutto, Screenblacker which is a free little Mac app from the people behind QLab might be useful to you. It's one of those things that seems a little silly but is super handy.

                            Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                            • A
                              AliaS last edited by

                              Fantastic!

                              On one computer, though, (out of 3 that I put it on), it isn't working and I am getting a message that says "access for assistive devices is disabled". Any idea? The other two it works great.
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                              • MatthewH
                                MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                                Trying going to Accessibility in System Preferences and turning on the check box for assistive devices.

                                Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  @Dappertutto

                                  Another thing that helps you seeing the cursor, got to Accessiblitiy in System Preferences and change the cursor size to really big. I use that often.

                                  Best
                                  Michel

                                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                  • A
                                    AliaS last edited by

                                    @MatthewH: I'm assuming by 'Accessibility' you mean 'Universal Access'. Thank you, but although it was, in fact, disabled, I've enabled it, restarted, and still getting the same error message. It gives me the option of then going in and editing the script but I'm no programmer.

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