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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Dear Gapworks,

      The plugin in question is part of Mac OS; it's installed with the Operating System.
      The Quartz Composer plugins are in one of three locations:
      /Library/Compositions
      /System/Library/Compositions
      ~/Library/Compositions
      You can access these directories by going to the Finder and choosing **Go > Go To Folder...** and entering the paths I listed above.
      You may want to check the last one first, because it may be that you've got **two** copies of the plugin... normally it would be installed at /System/Library/Compositions but perhaps there is a rogue copy at ~/Library/Compositions
      Have a look and let us know if you are able to solve the problem.
      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • gapworks
        gapworks last edited by

        Hi Mark,

         thanx for the fast reply. i found no copies! 
        i attached screenshots of the different folder content. 
        best
        peter

        101d03-librarycompositions.png e1b471-librarycompositions.png e0d92d-systemlibrarycompositions.png

        Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Well, then, let's do it the exhaustive way

          Open the Terminal program (Utilities folder) and type this
          cd /
          and hit return. Then type
          sudo find . -name "ASCII Art*" -print
          and hit return again. The system will ask for your password. Type it (no characters will appear when you do.) Hit return again.
          It will now search absolutely everywhere on your hard drive for the file. If it finds it, you'll see something like this:
          ./folder1/folder2/ASCII Art.qtz
          That will then tell you where the file is.
          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • gapworks
            gapworks last edited by

            so, sadly i not only have the asccii error now, but a complete crash of isadora :(

            see attached pics. (i did not do anything with the terminal information. Shall i try to reinstall isadora?
            as i´m working on an upcoming show, its kind of urgent.
            best
            peter

            67627f-terminal.png 705e0f-quit.png

            Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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            • gapworks
              gapworks last edited by

              ok i uninstalled isadora , downloaded the latest version. tried it :( same thing. first the ascii error than it crashes at the end :(((

              Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                Dear Gapworks,

                OK, well, send me the crash report as describe in [this post](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/65/bug-reports-guidelines#Item_1). 
                It's strange: the folder in which the ASCII Art plugin lives is a hidden folder -- denoted by the period (.) at the beginning of it's name. Isadora shouldn't find the plugin there. But what is this ".MobileBackups" folder anyway? I wonder if this also could have something to do with the crash -- this obviously isn't your real user folder, it's a backup.
                One thing to look for: an alias to the users folder at ".MobileBackups/Computer/2013-07-13-153818/Volume/Users/gap" somwhere. If this was in a path Isadora is searching to find things, _maybe_ it would attempt to open the .qtz. file that way. I have no good way for you search for such an alias though.
                You should make sure also to repair permissions using DIsk Utility. And, as long as you're at it, verify your disk as well.
                Finally, if you want to delete the ASCII Art.qtz, go to the Finder and choose **Go > Go To Folder...** Then enter the path from the terminal program, **not** including the "./" at the beginning and not including the "ASCII Art.qtz" at the end. It should open the folder. Then you can delete the ASCII Art Plugin and see if that changes anything.
                Best Wishes,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  Dear gapworks,

                  The crash you are seeing is happening because a QuickTime component called SoftVDigX is crashing. This seems to have been installed by the Kinoni Epoccam software. Please uninstall Epoccam and remove the SoftVDigX component at
                  /Library/QuickTime/SoftVDigX.component/Contents/MacOS/SoftVDigX
                  and I think the crash will go away.
                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • gapworks
                    gapworks last edited by

                    thanx mark, due to your help at least its not crashing anymore. the other problem i haven´t solved yet but at least it works with my workaround. the terminal says the folder  does not exist.

                    pathfinder says i dont have permission to access the folder. weird in a way. but at least i can continue my work!! :) i keep you informed!
                    thanx so much 
                    best peter

                    Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                    • mark
                      mark last edited by

                      Well, the bottom line is that there's an ASCII Art.qtz file somewhere, and Isadora is finding it.

                      Make sure to check /Library/Application Support/FreeFrame too just in case.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • gapworks
                        gapworks last edited by

                        as promised i give news. I solved the problem :)first i deleted the ascii.qrz from system/library/compositions (having a copy on my usb stick!) when i started isadora the next plugin, the black&white had an error window. when i put the ascii plugin back into the folder Isadora started up without any errors! whowever it worked, it worked :)

                        thanx again
                        best peter

                        Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                        • mark
                          mark last edited by

                          Weird! But happy it's solved.

                          Best,
                          M

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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