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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      Try adding this actor in the workflow (follow on from facebook conversation) 45835a-screen-shot-2013-09-05-at-10.04.58.png

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • raganmd
        raganmd last edited by

        Thanks Skuplture. I'll give that a try when I get the system booted back up.

        http://matthewragan.com/
        Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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        • raganmd
          raganmd last edited by

          With the CI Affine Transform actor added to the workflow I'm still running into the same issue.

          Weird, right?

          http://matthewragan.com/
          Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Yes thats intersting.... Hmmm. Does it do the same on another machine? I can try it on mine if you wish?

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • mark
              mark last edited by

              Dear Raganmd,

              If you don't mind, can you send the Custom QC patch to me so I can try this? It should most definitely work directly into the CI Movie Player.
              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • raganmd
                raganmd last edited by

                Hi Mark and Skulpture,

                You two are phenomenal.
                Alright, included here are the quartz composition and an Isadora patch with two scenes:
                CI projector - the patch using the CI projector
                Video Projector - the patch using a video projector
                As a note, on my end both work in Forced Stage Preview, but only the video projector scene works when outputting to an actual projector. I've tried this at resolutions of everything between 800 x 600 to 1920 x 1200 and have had the same results for each resolution.
                **_Technical Details_**
                _Mac Pro_
                OS X 10.8.4 (12ES5)
                3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon
                8GB 1333 MHz DDR3
                Dual ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB
                _The Projector_
                Barco RLM W8
                1920 x 1200
                Isadora 1.3.1f06
                Thanks for another set of eyes on this.
                Best,
                Matt

                204cea-ci-projector-issue.izz ef730d-escher-cube-iterations.qtz.zip

                http://matthewragan.com/
                Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  Dear Matt,

                  My initial tests on Mac OS 10.6.8 worked as expected -- no crashes or problems with a 1920x1080 external monitor. I'll try with 10.7 later, but won't be able to try with 10.8 immediately because I'm away from home for the next three weeks and won't have access to my Mac Pro. But the laptop isn't a totally fair test, because things can be a bit different when you have a discrete GPU card as you have in the Mac Pro.
                  Matt, can you set your force stage preview size (in the Stage tab of the Preferences) to 1920x1200 and see if this stops the patch from working? (If the QC patch were for some reason to exceed the maximum texture size because of the output resolution, this could cause a problem.)
                  Also, ensure that the 'stage' input on the QC actor is set to the actual stage you will use when you're showing it on the Barco.
                  Maybe Graham will find a problem if he tries it. Graham?
                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Just got home. Will try it shortly. This problem has been playing on my mind for a few days now... Will report back this evening.

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      So... I have no external monitor but when I full screen it on my laptop screen (as per sig) all is fine. Same for both scenes.

                      I can try it on an external screen tomorrow though but technically it should be no different should it?

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • raganmd
                        raganmd last edited by

                        Hi Mark and Graham,

                        I did some additional tests on my computer at home and like you I'm not having any issues rendering to an external monitor. For my home test I'm running OS X 10.8.4, and Isadora 1.3.1f06 to match the set-up of the theatre. Huh.
                        Mark - when I get to the theatre tomorrow I'll try a force preview at a stage resolution of 1920 x 1200 and report back on the results. In programming the show I have been using remote access over a wired network to screen share with the Mac Pro. Is there any chance this is causing a problem?
                        Tomorrow I'll try both:
                        Force Preview at 1920 x 1200
                        No Remote access
                        Thanks again for the extra help on this gentlemen!
                        Best,
                        Matt

                        http://matthewragan.com/
                        Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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                        • raganmd
                          raganmd last edited by

                          Hi Mark and Graham, 

                          Whoa golly what a snipe hunt am I on in this theatre.
                          I upgraded the MacPro to Isadora pre-release 1.3.1f06.
                          • In doing this I'm able to force preview to the CI projector at resolutions less than or equal to 1024 x 768 (Mark, when I made the force preview window larger I was only getting a black stage).
                          • Using the Image to Video and connecting to a Projector actor, I see a black stage both in forced preview, and displaying only to the stage.
                          • There's no difference in performance with or without remote access.
                          • The long and the short of it is that on the Mac Pro in the theatre, quartz does not behave in 1.3.1f06
                          To trouble shoot, I installed 1.3.0f24 on another partition on this same machine.
                          • In 1.3.0f24 I'm back to seeing the CI projector actor work in forced preview, but not in the full stage.
                          • The image to video actor now works as expected rendering both to the forced preview and to the full stage.
                          This has been a fascinating set of odd behaviors from this MacPro. 
                          What do you guys think... Other ideas about what might be going on here?
                          As always, thank you for your time and thoughts on this.
                          Best,
                          Matt

                          http://matthewragan.com/
                          Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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                          • mark
                            mark last edited by

                            Well, I guess the other test is to see if the patch works OK in Quartz Composer itself. Does it?

                            Best,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • raganmd
                              raganmd last edited by

                              Windowed and Full screen it works great in just Quartz.

                              Crazy, right? I think I'm most confused by seeing it work on other machines. Maybe a driver update would help?
                              Thanks Mark!
                              Best, Matt

                              http://matthewragan.com/
                              Isadora version 1.3.0f25 | Core i7 | 27" iMac | OSX 10.8.2 | 16 GB RAM | 2GB AMD Radeon HD 6970M

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