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    • ursullivision
      ursullivision last edited by

      Thanks!  I'll check it out this weekend to see if I can use it in rehearsal Monday.

      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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      • ursullivision
        ursullivision last edited by

        Hi Mark,

        just "installed" the plugins by opening up the isadora package and placing them in the Isadora Plugins folder, but I can't seem to see them in Isadora when I restart.  Where should I find them, in Quartz Composer, or Core Video Effects (I can't find them in either).

        Thanks,

        ur,ummm......................................................eric

        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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        • ursullivision
          ursullivision last edited by

          Sorry, I just found them in "User".

          Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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          • ursullivision
            ursullivision last edited by

            Hi Mark,

            I do agree with your suggestion: "I also think it would probably be nicer to have a single color input instead of an separate RGB values."  I'm going to see if these plugins are more efficient for my patch (then the Isadora Chroma key Actor).

            What I really need is a CI Chroma key actor, but I guess that is a very difficult task...

            Thanks again for recompiling them.

            ur,ummmm.......................eric

            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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            • ioio
              ioio last edited by

              Hi all,
              the reason I did rgb input is that i use the patch below to pick the right color in the right region in the stage, its too hard to estimate precisely the color with your eyes.
              I use this patch with an intensity shuttle capture to get uncompressed video:  video noise is the biggest ennemy of chroma key.
              c59b13-getcolor.izz

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              • Michel
                Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                @ioio thanks eitherway, its nice to play with.

                @Mark thanks for compiling.

                Best,
                Michel

                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                • ursullivision
                  ursullivision last edited by

                  @ioio thanks for the patch!  And the plug ins!

                  ur,ummmm..............................eric

                  Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                  • ursullivision
                    ursullivision last edited by

                    Just wanted to report that the ioio Chroma Key Actor is running faster in my patch than the Isadora Chroma Key Actor (with a Photo Jpeg MOV 720X576 background and Live USB Camera input at 720X576 I get up to 23.6 FPS).
                    When I add the Dilate Alpha actor it kills the frame rate (around 14 FPS).  With the Isadora chroma Key Actor I was getting around 12-14 FPS.  Thanks for sharing!

                    ur,ummmmmmmmmmmm........................................eric

                    Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Where do I need to put these please?

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • Michel
                        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                        Best,
                        Michel
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                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Yup thought so.

                          No show on mine. Strange. Probably something simple. I've restarted and nothing showing up. I will figure it out.

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • ursullivision
                            ursullivision last edited by

                            Skulpture:  try looking in USER Actors...

                            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Nope. Nothing.

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • mark
                                mark last edited by

                                No further help from me. Michel's instructions were correct.

                                -- M

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • ursullivision
                                  ursullivision last edited by

                                  Hello all.  I found a QC Chroma key on the web which I have tried to adapt to my needs.  It is a little faster then ioio's (I guess because the image doesn't have to be converted from image to video and back).
                                  The problem I have with both ioio's plugin and the QC Chromakeyer is that I can't seem to get a smooth edge (Dillated. blurred. etc) on my key.  In QC I can blur the image without slowing the actor way down but any filters I pass the Chroma Keyed image through after the Chroma Key Patch in my QC composition eliminates the images alpha channel (ie. I can't split my Chroma Keyed image out and process it in the QC Actor without losing the the effect of the Chroma Key patch) all downstream patches (filters) seem to strip the alpha out.  Does anybody know how to preserve an alpha in QC?

                                  Sorry, this maybe a little off topic, but it is about creating a faster and better looking Chroma Key Actor for Isadaora.

                                  Any help would be appreciated.

                                  Thanks!

                                  ur,ummmm.............................................eric

                                  Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                  • Michel
                                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    @ursullivision

                                    I also found a link on several websites to such a plugin but they all led to the same out of date link. Could you post it here on the forum, so we can try out and maybe find a solution together?

                                    Best,
                                    Michel

                                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    • ursullivision
                                      ursullivision last edited by

                                      @Michel,

                                      Hi Michel,

                                      sure I can post the original web address or my modification.  Which would you prefer?

                                      So far I've created a "qc composition" for an Isadora actor, but not a "plug in".  Don't know how to do that.

                                      Thanks,

                                      ur,ummmm..............................eric

                                      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                      • J
                                        Jim_Nevin last edited by

                                        I use the Veescope SoftLyght keyed ($40) with excellent results. There is a free trial.

                                        http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/VeeScope/Products/VeescopeKey/VeescopeKeyOverview.htm
                                        It is a Quartz Composer plugin that you will have to save as a QC composition in order to access within Izzy
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                                        • ursullivision
                                          ursullivision last edited by

                                          @Michel,

                                          Here is where I found the links below:

                                          http://kineme.net/forum/DevelopingCompositions/Maskingtechniquesforgreenscreen

                                          Here are a few links to the Compositions I found:

                                          this composition doesn't work on my MAc:

                                          http://www.daisyrust.com/category/quartz-composer/

                                          This is the one I modified:

                                          http://kineme.net/files/ChromaKey_gt.qtz

                                          This is another one which I also tried to modify:

                                          http://kineme.net/files/Chroma key +BW_0.qtz

                                          Am still having problems getting clean edges.

                                          I'll check out Jim Nevis's suggestion (if it isn't to slow for my machine).

                                          Thanks,

                                          ur,uummmmmm.................................eric

                                          Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                          • ursullivision
                                            ursullivision last edited by

                                            @Jim_Nevin,

                                            I just downloaded the demo version of Veescope SoftLyght keyed.  How do I save the plugin as a Composition?

                                            I found the plugin but can't figure out how to convert it.

                                            Thanks for any info.

                                            ur,ummmm....................................eric

                                            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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