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    • m_theater
      m_theater last edited by

      heydo izzy people,

      we want to share a recent build actor
      to communicate with a chamsys console
      probably it isn't bug free but for now it works pretty well
      you can read more about the needed proxy in our [blog](http://blo.avk4.net/isadora-chamsys-magicq/)
      hope this helps
      greetings
      oscar & clemens

      f1ec45-chamsys_actor_b04.izz

      avk4.net

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      • primaldivine
        primaldivine last edited by

        Very lovely solution. Thanks Guys.

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        • gunther
          gunther last edited by

          very interesting!
          Where can I find that blog?

          cheers, gunther

          Izzy 3 USB | Win10 64bit | various hardware: I5, I7

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          • gapworks
            gapworks last edited by

            sounds very interesting as i mainly use chamsysOnPC as my touring lightboard. But to be honest a little more documantation would be great. Because like this i don´t even have

            an idea where to start. :( setup, connection, dongle version, ect...
            best 

            Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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            • gapworks
              gapworks last edited by

              @ Gunther I don´t get it. No Idea where to start. Do you?

              Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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              • m_theater
                m_theater last edited by

                hi everybody,

                i am trying to remember, but the chamsys was from the lx designer, and the production is already a more than a year ago
                basically we wished to control a chamsys on pc with a connected wing, the easy way would have been a dedicated midi box but this hasn't been around. My attempted was to use the remote control function chamsys is offering when a wing is connected.
                here is the remote protocol https://secure.chamsys.co.uk/help/documentation/magicq/ch32.html
                but i had hard times to understand it so we used wireshark to capture the data stream generated by 2 magicQ machines.
                the patch is the rebuild data structure chamsys is expecting,
                one problem was still left that izzy is only opening tcp ports but the console is expecting a udp connection, this is why we used netcat to act as a proxy
                we had a basic working setup, but the lx designer decided to manually cue the lx to the video
                as we worked with acrobats and he felt more comfortable knowing that we won't trigger some lights while there are flying and jumping around.
                --
                the patch shows 
                some number transforming, i thought it could be useful for some of us who are trying to match there values to an expected formatting. An Issues which comes around quite often when dealing with tcp or serial connections is the back and forth transformation from 1 byte (256 values) into 3 characters or the combination for 10 /16 bit data.
                an counter (index) value generation think of it as a stamp for the udp packet
                a "checksum" datalength calculator
                --
                @gunther @gapworks does that help a bit ?
                best clemens 
                p.s.
                when i find some time next week i could look to find more docs from the project but without a chamsys wing around it is hard to test …

                avk4.net

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                • gunther
                  gunther last edited by

                  hi clemens,

                  thanks for your reply. At the moment I have more questions than I could ask. At our venue we just bought some chamsys products (MQ80, PC wing) and we are learning a lot. Tomorrow we'll have a workshop with a Chamsys specialist. I'll show him your patch and will ask him some questions for linking Chamsys to Isadora.

                  Hopefully we will get some useful actors for our work, like a Go or a Playback fader...

                  I'll post our experience....
                  gunther

                  Izzy 3 USB | Win10 64bit | various hardware: I5, I7

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                  • gunther
                    gunther last edited by

                    Thanks to clemens and the stuff of m_theater Berlin, I ran my first theatre production on Chamsys MagicQ, controlled from Isadora. Their patch was a great help to connect Isadora to MagicQ.

                    I made user actors out of the original patch. In the attached file you'll find my approach to use Chamsys in Isadora. I hope, this will also be useful to others.

                    gunther
                    ff28f5-chamsys-actors.izz

                    Izzy 3 USB | Win10 64bit | various hardware: I5, I7

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                    • m_theater
                      m_theater last edited by

                      @gunther, super that it worked out for you

                      past month got more busy then expected, so please excuse that i couldn't be help more
                      i would be happy if we could post a more picture based "how to" 
                      but perhaps that is a task for a izzy gathering ?
                      best clemens

                      avk4.net

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                      • gapworks
                        gapworks last edited by

                        @gunther we could do a screenshot/ description tutorial when we meet in 2 weeks. i think it might be helpful for others too...

                        but great u managed!
                        lg

                        Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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