Relative MIDI Encoders?
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Hi,
I'm building a control setup for my Akai MPK61 MIDI controller which has 3 banks of 8 knobs. The issue with these knobs is that they are "endless" and don't have any marking as to the value they're set at.
So I can control an effect with Knob 1 on bank A, but when I switch to bank B, that same knob will make whatever parameter it's linked to jump to whatever value it was last set at.I can set NRPN values for the knobs which would allow them to just send values of +1 or -1, which would fix this issue, but I don't know if Isadora supports NRPN.
Otherwise, I was wondering if there was anyway to make the knobs between banks function like they do in Ableton Live. In live you can set knobs to what I think is called "relative" mode where the midi value and the value of the parameter being changing is scaled until they are in sync. Ableton also has a setting that deactivates editing of the parameter until the knob has reached that value. So if my knob is at "0" and the parameter is at "100", the "100" value won't change until the knob gets to 100, instead of jumping down to "3" as soon as I start moving the knob. I think this would preferable to relative scaling.
Does this make sense?
Thanks so much,
-E
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Have you checked what Isadora receives from the controller using the 'monitor' window?
My Akai only switched banks of pads, not the sliders or knobs, so I am not able to look at it myself.But I have the endless knobs, and would have thought the controller should remember the banks value, and send that accordingly since the knobs placement doesn't matter.When you say that the param will jump to the value of the last bank, is this a momentary thing.. like it jumps up and then right back to the current knobs position if you move it slightly??I would be interested in seeing a screen capture of the monitor window, with an explanation of what step are taken at each point so that we can determine the data flow.
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Yes you can, build modifiers (user actors on/off) for the banks,
comparator value gates combined with data array or trigger value for the knobs if needed,
I transmit all via OSC it enables sever client as well, using several midi controllers,
got my inspiration from Traktor DJ mappings
everything is possible, ….
I think you asking for soft takeover.
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Hey thanks so much for replying.
DusX, It seems like the knobs and fades work exactly as I hoped them to do! Weird because they're funny in every DAW I've used. I just assumed they would do the same without any software intervention.
Thank you rainbow, I will look into that.
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Good to know that it worked out for you.
Isadora has very good Midi support. -
hello,
I don't know if this little patch will be useful anymore, for me very much so I share :
just a way to make encoders sending absolute value to Isadora
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@eryck - I was playing around with a complex decision tree actors when I decided to look this up - it's 2020 and this is still a simple and elegant solution! thank you!
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@eryck said:
I don't know if this little patch will be useful anymore, for me very much so I share : just a way to make encoders sending absolute value to Isadora
I don't understand how this works. Assuming that your incoming value has a range of 0 to 127, when your incoming value is more than half of 127 you'll select 2 on the router and be subtracting, when your incoming value is less than half of 127 you'll select 1 on the router and be adding.
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@eraserhead said:
deactivates editing of the parameter until the knob has reached that value. So if my knob is at "0" and the parameter is at "100", the "100" value won't change until the knob gets to 100, instead of jumping down to "3" as soon as I start moving the knob.
I made a patch that does this as well as relative (but relative is much worse because it gets really inaccurate until you get back up to 127 and it resets).
