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    Old machines vs new isadora 2.0

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    • maxiwille
      maxiwille last edited by

      Hi all !! im a isadora user since five  years ago ( also an early adopter). i use Isadora a lot with my students and in the workshop of Dance and Technology.

       My question is related to this: some time students have old machines (generaly windows). With old machines i mean small Ram amount and standar inside video card, and/or old windows version. What is better for performance keep using old Isadora verions like 1.3 .25  or change to 2.02  (demo of course) version.
      Thank you very much  as always !!
      Maxi

      Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
      Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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      • DusX
        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

        As long as the video cards support a minimum of OpenGL 2, I would suggest that version 2 will extend performance.
        The simple matter of moving more of the work load to the graphics card will give you more development room within Isadora.

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Let me add that OpenGL 2 was released in 2004 -- so it's ten years old at this point. So, most recent cards should support it.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • maxiwille
            maxiwille last edited by

            Thanks dusX and Mark !!

            Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
            Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              Keep video files resonable size. Maybe run videos from an external USB 3 SSD when/if possible. Check codecs are right and that ISADORA is optimised as best as possible.

              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              • maxiwille
                maxiwille last edited by

                Thanks Skulpture ! So what all are you saying that there is no doubt of moving to 2.0. ? Big Hug Maxi

                Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
                Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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                • S
                  Stephane_Morisse last edited by

                  I think I read that AVF arrived with 10.7 so does it make any sense to install the new version on my 2009 MBP running 10.6.8 ?

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                  • mark
                    mark last edited by

                    Yes, it makes sense. It is totally compatible with 10.6, which is now the minimum OS version you can use. You just won't be able to use the AVFoundation features (i.e., all video playback will be with QuickTime.)

                    But, if you purchase the upgrade, all of the new features except AVFoundation will be there for you to use.
                    Best Wishes,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • maxiwille
                      maxiwille last edited by

                      Dear all !! so now after all i began testing and had installed isadora 2.0.2 demo version on a

                      Dell mini inspiron -4 yaers old- but with xp (for better performance). when i go to show stages or force...  it crashes all the time. Neither with movie player or video in watcher. Any ideas ??
                      thanks as always
                      Maxi

                      Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
                      Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear @maxiwille

                        Isadora 2.0 requires OpenGL 2.0, which was released in 2004\. Please make sure that the video drivers on your system all support OpenGL 2.0\. If they don't, please install upgrades to bring them up to OpenGL 2.0 and see if that solves the problem.
                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • maxiwille
                          maxiwille last edited by

                          I found that i have 1.4 version of open gl. i went to de intel driver update utility but apparently is for windows Vista an so on. So i will need a way to get updated drivers for OpenGl for Windows XP

                          Thanks again
                          maxi

                          Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
                          Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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                          • DusX
                            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                            I have a 10 year old Dell Inspiron 9100 that I test Isadora on. Just so you know its possible.
                            Getting XP updates might be tough though.
                            What is the video card make/model ?

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                            • Maximortal
                              Maximortal last edited by

                              IMHO quickest way is to upgrade xp to w7 an 4 years old machine should easily run it pretty smooth.

                              I've tested Isadora 2.0 on a Athlon x64 (!) with 2 gb RAM and w7 and it can run a single .wmv at 25 fps

                              Iro Suraci | Win 10 - Ryzen 3600 - 32GB - nVidia gtx 960 4gb / Win 10 - i5 4210U - 8 GB - R5 M230 | Isadora 3.0.7| Located in Brescia, Italy

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                              • mark
                                mark last edited by

                                @Maximortal,

                                Athlon x64 + 2GB. Ha! Very brave! ;-)

                                Best,
                                Mark

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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