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    How to have a person move an object that is generated/projected by Isadora

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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      Some context to my idea/dream 

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKB0d9vsfgA 

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      • Fred
        Fred last edited by

        And here again a unified coordinate system either normalised or pixel based would make comparative calculation and position in Isadora one million times easier.

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        • Skulpture
          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

          I've found an old patch that @gavspav made for me when talking about this a while ago.

          I can't get it to work but it may be handy for some. 

          d0d4c5-bounce-off.izz

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

            @Fred It's in the feature requests. When you say normalized, what do you mean? I think the precentage measure isadora uses can do the job. It's just knowing which elements are based on stage width vs height that makes calculations difficult. Personally I like the scalability of this method. Using a little care you can make projects that adapt to different displays very easily.

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            • J
              JetJaguar last edited by

              DusX and Skulpture,

              How to track an infrared LED in Isadora?.  I can see an infrared light using Processing and simple open NI tracking IR; it is being picked up by the Kinect.  Cannot figure out how to either see and use the IR LED to be tracked in Isadora and then used as a trigger.  What would that actor configuration look like?  Currently I'm simulating moving particles on the X, Y planes with a Mouse Watcher but would like to replace it with the IR LED as both DusX and Vanakuru suggested.

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              • dbini
                dbini last edited by

                infrared camera -> video in watcher -> sprite (to calibrate size and positioning) -> eyes -> gives you an x and y for the infrared dot.

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                • rainbow
                  rainbow last edited by

                  Wii remote and OSC, I used years ago, sure it still dose the job.

                  best ...
                  rainbow
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                  • gapworks
                    gapworks last edited by

                    @rainbow

                    i don´t quite get your concept. :( the dancer needs to carry the Wii ?

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                    • rainbow
                      rainbow last edited by

                      ofcourse you need a IR led as well for the actor/dancer ;))

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                      • J
                        JetJaguar last edited by

                        gapworks-  IR led on the dancer.  Kinect watches the IR led.

                        Thanks dbini!  I will check out.

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                        • Michel
                          Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                          @joedrums

                          In the link you see a video where an IR-Pen and a Wii-mote are working together, the Wiimote was about 8 meters (26ft) away the maximum distance I could get to work fine. I usede OSCulator to connect to the Wiimote and sent OSC messages to Isadora.

                          http://www.filmprojekt.ch/theater-installationen/strange-lines/

                          Best Michel

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                          • gapworks
                            gapworks last edited by

                            @ Michel would a pen this size work ?

                             http://www.amazon.de/SALE-Fordex-Gruppe-WIRELESS-PRESENTER/dp/B00KFEPM6I/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1444551077&sr=8-13&keywords=IR+Pen
                            and how do you connect the Wii with the pen. OSCulator and Osc messages is clear as i used it before. 
                            best

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                            • N
                              nick last edited by

                              Even later than previous late to party people -

                              I would approach this by trying to set up sensor/sensors that cover a plane in front of the projection (parallel to the wall where the projection is happening) to detect x y coordinates for anything that breaks the plane.
                              Depending on how many blocks you want, stage size, budget and rigging time you may be able to do it with a series of break beam or distance sensors.
                              If you have serious budget then a laser scanner would be the thing to go for (but test it with expected lighting conditions to see) - cheap 360 laser scanner is http://www.slamtec.com/en-US/rplidar/index
                              You would not need full 360 if the laser is on one side or above, but this was cheaper than anything else last time I looked.

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                              • rainbow
                                rainbow last edited by

                                Well done, glade you solved it. ;)

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  @gapworks

                                  No that pen would not work it uses the IR signal to communicate with the usb ir receiver and that is just for sending commands and it has a laser pointer. You need an IR-Pen that has a bright IR-Light. You don't have to connect the IR-Pen with the Wiimote, the Wiimote has a built in IR-Camera and the camera sees the IR-Light.

                                  I have used this IR-Pen the wrong way around, the IR Light was not facing the surface but the Wiimote, I am sure there are cheaper ones around, or you can build your own, there are lots of tutorials online, the trick is to find a very bright IR-LED.

                                  Best Michel

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                                  • J
                                    JetJaguar last edited by

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                                    • Michel
                                      Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                      @joejdrums

                                      You need to use the eyes or eyes++ actor and a blob decoder actor attached to it and something infront of the cameras lens that blocks the visible light so the camera only sees the IR light otherwise it will be difficult to track only the IR-Light.

                                      A not exposed but devoleped 35mm color photofilm is a good and cheap filter to atach to the cameras lens to block most of the visible light.

                                      Best Michel

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                                      • J
                                        JetJaguar last edited by

                                        Here is where I'm currently at.

                                        Started with "pushing particles.izz" to have mouse control X/Y movement of particles. 
                                        Then tried to use syphon receiver to bring in my Kinect IR stream from Processing (pushing particles + IR.izz).  As you can tell Skulpture or DusX the second experiment isn't working. I cannot figure out how to tie it into the initial pushing particles patch and have the IR light take the place of the mouse.  
                                        Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

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