Kinect + Isadora Tutorials Now Available

DusX

@Marci What do you think would be involved in porting this over to pc?

Marci

Errrr.... Good question. On PC iirc we're reliant on the proper MS Kinect SDK aren't we? Thought that had nuked out the opportunity to use anything but the proper XBox for Windows models which would preclude me from testing...? Will need to read up on it. I'll look into it...!

mark

First, I've been so busy working on Isadora v2.2 that I haven't been looking at the forum much in the last weeks. I was excited to see all the energy here among the community for this Kinect solution. Thanks to everyone for contributing, and especially @Marci for updates and setting up the GitHub.

I wanted to note to @Marci that I tested the Windows version using a Kinect 1473\. So you definitely are not _forced_ to use Xbox for Windows models.

For a recent workshop, I did a quick and dirty implementation of multiple skeletons. Once v2.2 is out, I'll add that to the repro so everyone can have it.

Best Wishes,

Mark

Marci

Ah cool - in which case I’ll look to reproduce for win. Never really bothered hooking it up to a PC as it was always simpler to get things going on OSX.

Marci

Just skimmed through the windows sketch - yeah it'll be no bother to port. Will get it done this week.

bruper

Something I cannot find is the way to change the Processing sketch to start with camera in RGB mode or IR MODE.

I tried with no success to change it in the OSC multitrasmit of the "Isadora Skeleton Test Mac" supplied in
https://github.com/PatchworkBoy/isadora-kinect-tutorial-files

and the Processing sketch of 9 days ago and the today one.

I searched in the Processing sketch if there was something I would be able to change but nope... It starts on kCameraImage_Depth = 3.

I would like to try the others kCameraImage.

Thanks for enlighten me.

mark

Dear @bruper,

Look at this part of the code:

// --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

// CAMERA IMAGE SENT VIA SYPHON

// --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

int kCameraImage_RGB = 1; // rgb camera image

int kCameraImage_IR = 2; // infra red camera image

int kCameraImage_Depth = 3; // depth without colored bodies of tracked bodies

int kCameraImage_User = 4; // depth image with colored bodies of tracked bodies

int kCameraImage_Ghost = 5;

int kCameraImageMode = kCameraImage_IR; // << Set this value to one of the kCamerImage constants above

// for purposes of switching via OSC, we need to launch with

// EITHER kCameraImage_RGB, or kCameraImage_IR

You should be able to set it to kCameraImage_RGB to show the RGB channel.

Best,

Mark

bruper

@mark

thanks, yes how silly of me.. totally overlooked...

gapworks

@Marci thanks for the fast reply ! i will give it a try on Wednesday when i return from venice as i don´t travel with my kinect!

Marci

"tried with no success to change it in the OSC multitrasmit of the "Isadora Skeleton Test Mac" supplied in https://github.com/PatchworkBoy/isadora-kinect-tutorial-filesand the Processing sketch of 9 days ago and the today one.”

Like I said, if you start in RGB you can’t switch to IR. If you start in IR you can’t switch to RGB. Limitation of the Kinect hardware, not Processing. Nothing anyone can do about it regardless of what software you’re working in.

Both can’t be activated and switched between in a Processing sketch. You must choose one to work with. You can have (IR _OR_ RGB) & Depth & User & Ghost. You can’t have IR & RGB & Depth & User & Ghost.

Marci

The confusion everyone is making here is passing the camera images to Isadora full stop.

If you’re creating and affecting visuals in Isadora, pass OSC data to Isadora, and do everything visual in Isadora.

If you’re creating visual effects in processing, just use processing. Then only pass the syphon feed to Isadora to integrate that into an Isadora scene. Pass the minimal OSC data as needed to control anything additional you may want to control in Isadora, if anything at all.

The majority of folks dabbling in Kinect at the moment here seem to be wanting to produce visual effects that are done wholly in processing (i.e.: stuff from openprocessing.org, but substitute mouse for hand/kinect).

Isadora exists so people don’t have to learn code to create visuals. When using Processing, you’re just using Isadora as a camera / media player switcher / sequencer, and hardcoding all your visuals and interaction within Processing.

You have to abstract how you think about it. Work out what you want to achieve and WHERE to achieve it...

Marci

UPDATES

Have brought the Windows Processing Sketch up to date with the Mac Processing Sketch. Both now identical bar the syphon / spout bits (i.e.: Windows uses Spout, Mac uses Syphon).

Also, both sketches now output all detected skeletons via OSC to the address:

/skeleton/[useridnumber]/[limbpart]

I’ve updated the Mac Isadora file to reflect this in the stream setup FOR THE 1st SKELETON ONLY! I can’t do the Windows Isadora file as don’t have a windows machine handy I’m afraid (if someone wants to open up the Windows Izzy file and replicate across the OSC MultiTransmit actor and comments from the Mac file, and prefix all the OSC streams in stream setup with /skeleton/1 and attach it here, I’ll add that to the gitrepo also.)

To receive multiple skeletons in Isadora, users will need to head to stream setup and add the channels for /skeleton/2/ thru to /skeleton/6/, and then duplicate the various Kinect Point actors and set their channels correctly (again, if anyone wants to do that and send me the files I’ll happily add them to the gitrepo).

https://github.com/PatchworkBoy/isadora-kinect-tutorial-files

Lucmarcel

Marci -- when I pull the izzy file (sadora Skeleton Test Mac.izz) from github it tells me that the file can't open because it was written in a later version... I have 2.1 -- what can I do? I have a mac and just got 2.1 in Nov...

Marci

download the file from github again... sounds like an interrupted upload, so have just reuploaded it.

Marci

(For reference, it was written in 2.1)

DusX

@Marci

I also have this problem with both the Mac and Windows files, and I don't understand it. I will pm you.

Marci

Well I haven't touched the Windows Izzy file, just downloaded and uploaded to GitHub... the Mac file works for me, and I’ve just redownloaded it from github, and that one works for me also.

Will fire it over momentarily...

Marci

files now in hands of the Izagods!

mc_monte

@Marci --

Thank you so much for your AMAZING contributions to the Kinect project!

Marci

No probs - all work I'd already done in Sensadora - an Open Source CC0 licensed Processing sketch specifically for getting all the various Kinect usage cases into Isadora - not finished yet. Single sketch with options for blobs, skeleton, depth thresholds, pointclouds, gestures, 2D & 3D physics engines, & multiple kinects. Also with added leap motion support - idea being to allow the obvious Minority Report display interaction with a media library of audio, video, stills and live streams, along with generic OSC, serial, & http outputs for controlling Ptz cameras (VISCA / IP / Galileo) and link to Domoticz home automation for physical control over mains sockets, inputs from contact sensors etc & other smart devices. I got sidetracked by homebridge-edomoticz development, but that's launched & support requests slowing down now so should be able to get back onto it in a week or two. S'one of those ideas that just keeps expanding! Joys of a severely autistic son who demands LOTS of sensory input! The playlist_sketch at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lyxj60kf0k6jke7/AAAF5MszGamDSuiSP4fgH9t5a?dl=0 is the experimental playground for a lot of it.