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    Kinect + Isadora Tutorials Now Available

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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Dear @Bunker,

      Are you using Processing v2.2? As noted in the tutorial, SimpleOpenNI only works with v2.2\. It does not work with version 3.
      As for the error in the third picture, the it should be "!=" instead of "!=="
      Best Wishes,
      Mark 

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • Marci
        Marci last edited by

        Last error (third picture) is now fixed in the repo (must’ve been doing a lot of JS work that day!)... however, it’ll still error in Processing3 regardless as per @Mark above.

        rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
        Warning: autistic - may come across rather blunt and lacking in humour!

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Dear @Marci,

          As it says in Step 2 of the second tutorial you cannot use Processing v3, you must use Processing v2.2.1\. To wit:
          ![](http://troikatronix.com/tt-images/tutorials/common/caution.png) **IMPORTANT!** You must install Processing v2.2.1 because SimpleOpenNI has not been updated to support the latest version of Processing!
          So please try v2.2.1 and let us know how it goes.
          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • B
            Bunker last edited by

            After doing the changes.. it worked, my mac recognizes now the kinect device. Thank you!!

            Is not in this area of the forum but as it seems I'm enjoying this program. is there a site or a place where I can get more tutorials besides the basic 13 episode form youtube??

            Once again thank you for your help and such prompt response.

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            • Marci
              Marci last edited by

              @Mark ...??? That's what I reinforced in the post above your response... confused

              rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
              Warning: autistic - may come across rather blunt and lacking in humour!

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              • Michel
                Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                @Marci

                I think the confusion is the word regardless. It sounds like regardless what Mark said. Better would have been: it’ll still error in Processing3 as per @Mark above.

                Best Michel

                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  @Marci,

                  Sorry, I thought you were the original user who had the problem (i.e., @Bunker) That's why I addressed you in the way I did. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the update to the code. ;-)

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    George_A last edited by

                    Would someone mind giving me some guidance? I've followed the instructions in the tutorial to the letter and am still getting nothing showing up in my canvas when I run the setup and an error message I don't even begin to understand in Processing. I'm using the 1414 model Kinect with a MBP Retina 15, bought last year. I understand that the usb3 port may be an issue, is there a work around? Am I screwed?b4ae38-screen-shot-2016-04-28-at-11.18.41-am.png

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                    • mark
                      mark last edited by

                      Dear @George_A,

                      From what I can see, there is a crash in the Java runtime environment when attempting to get a list of USB Devices. The crash is happening in libusb, which is the open source USB input/output library, in a call named darwin_get_device_list.
                      What version of Mac OS are you using?
                      I am unsure how to guide you on this. Many users are using these tools successfully. The only thing I could suggest is to somehow update libusb. The way to do that would be to install Homebrew (see [here](http://brew.sh)) and then enter the command line in Apple's "Terminal" program:
                      brew install libusb
                      I guess that's the only thing I can suggest here as a possible solution.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • Marci
                        Marci last edited by

                        Wandering off on a tangent... a tip for Kinect concept development work based on some playing around this weekend: Get some Lego, some of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/121953917174, and apply some judicious use of gaffa tape and scalextric cars & track... ;) Start small scale in your studio / kitchen, then scale up. Much easier than leaping about in front of camera / directing small child or significant other... and you can map the whole 'stage' with a single Kinect and projector. Allows for small scale testing of scenarios. :D

                        rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
                        Warning: autistic - may come across rather blunt and lacking in humour!

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                        • Marci
                          Marci last edited by

                          @george_a might also be worth removing and reinstalling latest JRE to see if it has any impact... I'm running v8... you look to still be on v7.

                          rMBP 11,3 (mOS 10.13) / rMBP 11,4 (mOS 10.14) / 3x Kinect + Leap / TH2Go
                          Warning: autistic - may come across rather blunt and lacking in humour!

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                          • particlep
                            particlep last edited by

                            hi guys

                            do i need to upgrade to version 2 to make the izzy patch work ?
                            i'm currently getting an error message that the following actors could not be loaded

                            Syphon Receiver (ID = '53795243')

                            Projector (ID = '5F50524A')

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              @particlep Hi, Yes tutorials were made in version 2.

                              Have you upgraded? if not we can try and suggest a work around. 

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • particlep
                                particlep last edited by

                                hi @Skulpture 

                                i've not upgraded yet as i've been busy with another aspect of my practice of late.
                                would upgrading be a better option than the workaround ?

                                isadora v3.0.7
                                mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                mac osx 10.12.6
                                dyslexic.

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  @particlep version 2 has lots of amazing new features - i'm sure you've read about most of them. (http://troikatronix.com/about-isadora-2-0/) 

                                  But (hopefully) you know we/I am not here to push sales. We don't do that.
                                  The errors are basically missing actors. Version 2 has a standard Syphon actor as standard now. So no Quartz, freeframe, third party actors needed. There is also a new projector that accepts all video types (texture/video/image, etc) so thats the second error.
                                  It may be worth downloading the version 2 demo and giving it a go. You can still run both versions. I can talk you through the process if that's any help.
                                  Regards,
                                  Graham :) 

                                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                  • Michel
                                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    @particlep

                                    If you don't want to upgrade you have to replace the syphon receiver with for example THIS one, if you already have one you can use that one and also replace all the projectors with the ones you have available.

                                    Best Michel

                                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    • DusX
                                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                      Anyone running on Windows, you can use the Kinect V2 with Isadora.

                                      This project gets your OSC values from the skeleton tracking: https://github.com/microcosm/KinectV2-OSC
                                      Very easy to setup, and it runs great.

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                                      Running: Win 11 64bit, i7, M.2 PCIe SSD's, 32gb DDR4, nVidia GTX 4070 | located in Ontario Canada.

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                                      • mark_m
                                        mark_m last edited by

                                        @DusX my Kinect V1 walked off of its own accord sometime this week. Thought I might move on up to Kinect V2. Is there any particular model that I need for Windows? Can I just buy any old Kinect V2 and the Xbox One Kinect Adapter for Windows, or do I need something more particular?

                                        Thanks

                                        Mark

                                        Intel NUC8i7HVK Hades Canyon VR Gaming NUC, i7-8809G w/ Radeon RX Vega M GH 4GB Graphics, 32GB RAM, 2 x NVMe SSD
                                        Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED XD. Intel Core i7-11800H, NVidia RTX3070, 32GB RAM 2 x NVMe SSD
                                        PC Specialist Desktop: i9-14900K, RTX4070Ti, 64GB RAM, Win11Pro
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                                        • DusX
                                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                          @mark_m

                                          They have made 2 models, the Xbox kinect 2, and Kinect 2 for windows (no longer offered).
                                          Both are the same, and the SDK works for both. Additionally both need the power adapter.
                                          !* Windows only. On OSX, there is the ability to get an depth image, but I don't know much about that.

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                                          Running: Win 11 64bit, i7, M.2 PCIe SSD's, 32gb DDR4, nVidia GTX 4070 | located in Ontario Canada.

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                                          • ursullivision
                                            ursullivision last edited by

                                            Hi all.  Just tried to download the SimpleOpenNI v1.96 (112Mb) from the link in the tutorial, but the link has expired.  Anyone know where I can find the version for the Kinect model 1473 camera (which I just got).

                                            Thanks for your help,
                                            Eric

                                            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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