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    • JJHP3
      JJHP3 last edited by

      Well I'm no expert, but little is "easy" with a kinect and live video feeds in my experience. Doable, but had to use two MacBookPro computers and syphon etc etc. I used the kinect image into Isadora and processed it using color keying to combine the kinect "blobby" take on the human body with other footage. Go for it!

      John

      iMac'19; rMBP'21; OS-15.7; Isadora: 3.2 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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      • C
        cbr372 last edited by

        Tried the contrast and the desaturate actors and it helped a bit more but since the system of actors still revolves around luminance I unable to key out other bright spots. I am currently attempting it in my apartment right next to the window so imagine once I'm in a more controlled  color and luminance environment that will help. I'm essentially looking for the magic lasso tool from photoshop for live video.

        http://notabenevisual.com/?p=443
        The link above is to a video of the concept I am trying to achieve. My idea of thinking is that they somehow keyed out the bodies and made a mask from it and projected their silhouettes directly to the wall.
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        • vanakaru
          vanakaru last edited by

          I would go for IR lighting the screen and IR capable camera that will see the moving body as a shadow. You may need to filter IR from projector.

          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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          • stj
            stj last edited by

            This thread has a lot of information that might help you:

            http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/265/tracking-two-dancers

            sjurgens.net

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

              THIS youtube video that Mark posted about the technology used in 16 revolutions can help you aswell.

              Best,
              Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • K
                kevinjesuino last edited by

                Hi there,

                I'm in the same boat except I am using a Kinect + Isadora. 
                I'm trying to create a similar effect as in this one created by Graham 
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spd77d6yZ-s&list=UUhr7aQm3W7xQmn4YblveryA&index=21
                Could someone give me a lead please? 
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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  I never saved that patch it was a quick demo I did for some ex students but it something along these lines.... (open in a new tab its quite big) 0c5c98-screen-shot-2013-03-13-at-08.54.37.png

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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                  • eight
                    eight last edited by

                    @Skulpture I noticed in your video that the mask has a nicely defined smooth edge, compared to what raw data from kinect will give you. Do Gaussian Blur and Motion Blur do that, or NI Mate? What happens without the Blur filters?

                    Thanks.
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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Yeah it nearly always needs some blur.

                      I used to knock old CCTV cameras out of focus slightly to get similar results rather than adding blur in the software. But with ever increasing faster machines i started adding it into the software. Normally Gaussian Blur on 1 or 2 works nicely.

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                      RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                      RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • David
                        David last edited by

                        Hi Guys,
                        Thanks to @Skulpture I was able to create this new interactive piece : Indicible Camouflage
                        I'm presenting it next week to a jazz event and I realise that in Ni Mate only the active user's alpha in active.
                        Is there a way to capture all alphas no matter how many peaple stand infront of the devise ?

                        Thank you all for your great knowledge !

                        David

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Glad i've helped you David. Be sure to take some pictures and I wil put them on my blog.

                          :-)

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                          RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                          RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • David
                            David last edited by

                            Thanx @Skulpture I will do so !!

                            :-)
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                            • bruno
                              bruno last edited by

                              Hello Sculpture, i tried your patch but instead of the syphon actors , I used kinnect actor and the kinnect. My goals is to project video on a dancer. Do you think it's possible with the kinnect? Wher can I find the QC syphon actors? I send you a picture of my patch, just have a look on the right side.

                              Thank you for all your work
                              Best wiches
                              Bruno

                              b87947-kinnect.tiff

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                @bruno

                                It looks like you will need a threshold actor - this will boost the white and make the black/grey more black. (if that makes sense?)
                                Out it directly after the output from the Kinect Actor.

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                                RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                                RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                  cocoberdu last edited by

                                  hello everybody.

                                  i have some troubles to use the kinect with my new mac book pro. 
                                  i have nimate license but it crashed at launch , like synapse....
                                  i plugged the kinect on the usb3 on my mac and i think its the problem.
                                  but i dont have any other usb2 port.....
                                  do you know a solution about that?
                                  thats a lot

                                  mbp i5;16 go, osx 10.9.4, isadora 1.5.3f28
                                  website: www.desequilibres.com

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                                  • Fred
                                    Fred last edited by

                                    I use a kinect on a new macbook with only USB3 ports and no problems.

                                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                    https://github.com/fred-dev
                                    OSX 10.15.15 MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                                    Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD
                                    Windows 10 Threadripper 3960x 64g ram, 1tb NVME, rtx 2080ti + rtx2070 super

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                                    • Armando
                                      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                      Me too no problems


                                      Armando Menicacci
                                      www.armandomenicacci.net
                                      www.studiosit.ca

                                      Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 13 Ventura

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        It won't be the USB ports. It will be software/driver related.

                                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                        RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                                        RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                                        RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                        • C
                                          cocoberdu last edited by

                                          ok thanks for your answers. .....

                                          mbp i5;16 go, osx 10.9.4, isadora 1.5.3f28
                                          website: www.desequilibres.com

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                                          • zanetti
                                            zanetti last edited by

                                            @Skulpture
                                            Hi, regarding your screenshot I wanted to know if the video actors are gpu based and if so, because of the core video plugin?

                                            I have a similar arrangement with my kinect. But becuase its all vid-cpu obviously its very laggy.
                                            It's gonna be a big projection, video-installation project. So its quite crucial, that the resolution is the maximum.
                                            I would be probably able to borrow a new mac pro for the exhibition, but it seems weird to me that my computer can only make 6-10 fps.

                                            The isadora project won't exceed this two video layers and the alpha mask probably. so its fairly simple. its just the performance, which disturbs me.
                                            and second question: is this gone with izzy 2? Because my uni owns the v1 license and it would be probably worth to upgrade for that 125$...

                                            Thanks for helping!!!

                                            Leo

                                            I have MBP early 2011, i7 2,2 GHz with an ATI Radeon 6750M 1GB and 16GB Ram.
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