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    • craigw
      craigw last edited by

      I always put my computer in the control room, It's the best place to be to see and hear all the elements. The computer outputs are HDMI converted to SDI and feed to the main Video router so the feeds can go anywhere in the facility and stage. Yes more expensive but way more flexible.

      Mac OS Ventura 2017 MacPro, 32g Ram ,AMD FirePro D700 6144 MB. Isadora v3.2.6 Los Angeles CA

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        fifou last edited by

        @ craigw
        HDMI over SDI (or RJ45) of course (although we can't afford it) but I cannot put the computer in the control room because of the 3 USB cameras..

        @Dill
        I planned to send OSC commands via a second Isadora session, but on another screen I'd like to see what's really happening on my stage computer..
        Have you ever done that ?

        Philippe

        MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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        • bonemap
          bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by

          @fifou I have set up a few shows where I am controlling remote machines. Remote Desktop has worked fine. I have also used Apple Script to launch and close secondary applications on remote machines (i.e. apps that Syphon video into the Izzy patch), using Remote Desktop to activate, monitor and override the action if necessary. Internally linking isadora patches across multiple machines using Computer ID in Izzy Preferences and then NetBroadcaster and Listener actors was the feature that turned me onto Isadora back in 2002. It is still an amazing feature to be able to distribute machines around a space and have them all controlled from a single patch at the operations desk. I went out and bought a 100m spool of cat5 cable and put a connector on each end and have been using it to run remote machines through Isadora ever since. At the time of Isadora's release this feature was available in vastly more expensive and coveted solutions such as Watchout.

          One thing to take care of is the amount of OSC, UDP or other net traffic through your wired/wireless router. I have run shows where data flows have competed between different functions of image and sound (using Izzy and MAX and UDP iOS cameras) and latency issues were evident, but that is the nature of UDP/TCP. However, this has never stopped a show. You will want to setup a dedicated network router for your patch.
          cheers
          bonemap

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            fifou last edited by

            Thanks a lot Bonemap,

            That was that kind of answers I was looking for.
            Thanks for your tips. I will only have one slave computer, so I think I'll go for OSC messages, plus remote desktop to see what's going on.. in case..

            Cheers
            Philippe

            MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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            • jhoepffner
              jhoepffner last edited by

              Hello,

              I often use it, like Bonemap. OSC to do the remote commands in both ways (master to slave and slave to master) with slave in demo mode. I use Mac screen sharing to make direct change to the slave.
              And RJ45, not WiFi. Working flawlessly.
              Jacques

              Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
              GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
              MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
              MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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                fifou last edited by

                Thanks Jacques,
                That's exactly what I want to do..

                I'm in test phase and have some problems.
                Using a direct RJ45 cable between the two computer, manual ip config (10.10.10.11 & 10.10.10.50)

                OSC Remote scene navigation works, but not all the time..
                Reply the name of the scene works, but not all the time..

                Sometimes osc command is lost, don't know where..
                Patches work great on the same computer in localhost mode..

                A clue anyone ?
                Test patches included.

                Thanks
                Philippe

                7b040c-remote-control.izz 11fc62-slave.izz

                MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                • bonemap
                  bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by

                  Hi, What is the cable length? Do you have access to a powered network router to boost the signal? Regards Bonemap

                  http://bonemap.com | Australia
                  Izzy STD 4.2 | USB 3.6 | + Beta
                  MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.5 Sonoma
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                    fifou last edited by

                    For testing, the cable is 1 meter long !
                    No switch for the moment, direct from computer to computer.

                    MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                    • jhoepffner
                      jhoepffner last edited by

                      the ip numbers you gave are not the best for private use.

                      I recommend this one: 192.168.1.X (X between 1 and 254) with 255.255.255.0 as subnet mask and nothing in the router and DNS line
                      You need also to close your WiFi! It's very difficult to have a network with RJ45 and wifi together. .
                      With a 100m RJ45 and a switch I have no lost packet.
                      The best way is to use the Pinger in network assistant to test the communication.

                      Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                      GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                      MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                      MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                      MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                        fifou last edited by

                        Hi Jacques,

                        I'm working again on this remote thing.
                        I've done the exact same setup. And.. it's working ! No lost messages at all.
                        Same IP adresses, same RJ45 cable..
                        I'm happy but I'd like to understand why..

                        I'm going to use it intensely for the 3 next weeks.
                        Maybe I'll find the culprit by myself.

                        Thanks for all your advices.
                        All the Best
                        Philippe

                        MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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