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    • Maximortal
      Maximortal last edited by Maximortal

      Hi, i'm intensively testing codecs-container combination for a better video quality on w10. Doing my reserch I've found this video free do dawnload from youtube 

      probably you already knew it or not, its seems to me a good thing to share.

      BTW at this moment best video are AVI encoded with HAP (encoded in premiere cs6), in second place the good old WMV,  all the rest is terrible. 

      Isadora's settings: target frame rate 25fps, general service tasks 25x and play video  natively eneabled.

      Another good thing is that my other mapping software (I don't say which but very known ) reproduce this video worst than Isadora.

      if some one else can share some tests is much appreciated (encoder program, container, codec, isadora settings and so on

      Iro Suraci | Win 10 - Ryzen 3600 - 32GB - nVidia gtx 960 4gb / Win 10 - i5 4210U - 8 GB - R5 M230 | Isadora 3.0.7| Located in Brescia, Italy

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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        Dear @Maximortal 

        Excellent tip! We'll get this into our testing protocol!

        @DusX or @mc_monte could you grab this and put it in where we keep our shared resources?

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • Michel
          Michel Izzy Guru @mark last edited by

          @mark

          I grabbed it and uploaded it to the mp4_h264 folder, its named [mp4_H264]-Monitor-test.mp4

          Best Michel

          Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff @Michel last edited by

            @Michel
            Great, thanks.. exactly what I was going to do.

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            • DusX
              DusX Tech Staff @Maximortal last edited by

              @Maximortal

              Its nice to hear your tests are proving similar to my own.
              WMV runs well but although utilizing mutli-threading very well, tends to be rather cpu heavy.
              HAP is my go to. Unfortunately avi HAP seem to be on average 2x the size of qt HAP.
              This is something I am trying to improve upon. 
              If you can test, it would be helpful to know if you see a similar ratio if you export as QT Hap vs Avi Hap.

              Most avi codecs are old and poor. Very cpu heavy and good only for SD content.

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              • mark
                mark @DusX last edited by

                @DusX

                It's really weird that the HAP on Windows is 2x the size of Mac OS. As far as I know, the compression schemes are exactly the same. Both use the snappy and squish libraries to do the compression... so why would the output be twice as big? (That's a rhetorical question of course.)

                Best Wishes,
                Mark

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                • crystalhorizon
                  crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                  In the end it linked to a newer video test

                  Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru @crystalhorizon last edited by

                    @crystalhorizon

                    I have downloaded both and a third one.

                    Best Michel

                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • Maximortal
                      Maximortal last edited by

                      the second video surce link seems to be broken so i've used only the first one. 

                      @Mark It should be usefull if built in inside isadora's stage settings there will be more options than grid and fill white, like a checkboard and colours bars.

                      Iro Suraci | Win 10 - Ryzen 3600 - 32GB - nVidia gtx 960 4gb / Win 10 - i5 4210U - 8 GB - R5 M230 | Isadora 3.0.7| Located in Brescia, Italy

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                      • Maximortal
                        Maximortal @DusX last edited by

                        @DusX in my test mov and avi , encoded with CS6 quality set to 100 have same size. i.e. the video I've posted (the source not the youtube grab) is around 750 MB in both cases

                        another good thing is that also MOV encoded with HAP in quality 100 is played smootly.....good to know, next time some mac user have to send me a video I'll ask for a mov HAP

                        BTW it's only to me that speaking about overall image quality VLC and some other common player are still a bit better than Isadora (is not a complain of course)

                        some one that have experience with pro media servers (pandora, greenhippo, watchout...) can make a compare?

                        Iro Suraci | Win 10 - Ryzen 3600 - 32GB - nVidia gtx 960 4gb / Win 10 - i5 4210U - 8 GB - R5 M230 | Isadora 3.0.7| Located in Brescia, Italy

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